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Robert Ariail

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  1. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    Boeing’s ongoing nightmare. From faulty laminates on up the line.

  2. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, almost 2 years ago

    Check out the history of the 747 by comparison. That was the plane that was going to sink Boeing, and it became the most successful plane in the world — after a rough start.

  3. masterskrain

    masterskrain GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    A.A.A.
    American Airline Association.
    They must have one heck of a towing rider…

  4. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    I think ’mater’s gonna need some help!

  5. MortyForTyrant

    MortyForTyrant said, almost 2 years ago

    I (German → Europe → Airbus) should be happy for the troubles Boeing faces, but I am not. It’s a setback for the whole aircraft manufacturing industry. I bet you any money that there are plans in the drawer of Airbus Industries that also would have employed these type of batteries and now have to be shelved or modified. In a broader sense it is also a setback for technology as a whole. We KNEW that these cells could be trouble (laptop crisis of a few years back) and still didn’t get it right. And now a chilling thought as a parting gift: we KNOW what went wrong at Fukushima, but did we learn from it?

  6. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, almost 2 years ago

    @MortyForTyrant

    Bowing certainly has the monetary resources to build its own batteries right here in America, using American labor and expertise.

    There are several reasons why manufacturing is making a general come back right here in America.

    One of the more ethereal and therefore harder to define reasons is patriotism itself. But, it is one of the reasons that both liberals and conservatives can get behind. Especially as the US was the greatest manufacturing nation the world had ever seen at one time, and that was the main reason why the US was the Arsenal of Democracy that was the main factor in the allies winning WWII!

    Another more practical reason is the constantly increasing cost of shipping. It is certainly a lot less expensive to ship manufactured goods across a state or even a city that it is half way around the world!

    And finally, there is the major issue in this case. And that is the very important issue of quality assurance (or quality control to the less educated in this important area). It is a whole lot easier to both establish and maintain quality assurance on manufactured products right here in the USA close to the places where the actual industry is located than it is to use outsourced companies throughout the world.

    Yes, it probably costs a little more initially, but in the long run, and capital products such as either the automobile industry or aerospace industries produce are absolutely long term products. In the long run it is not only less expensive but a lot better on the all important reputation to manufacture right here in the good old USA, using the best and most productive workers in the world, than it is to outsources such important products!!

  7. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, almost 2 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    By the way, I do have some expertise in this area of quality assurance as from 1962 (at the tender age of 20) up until the year 2000 (when I retired) I worked on many of the most advanced rocket engines the world has ever produced.

    Engines such as the F1 and J2 that placed Americans on the moon, and especially the magnificent (and still highest performing) rocket engine of all time in the SSME’s that powered the space shuttles. During that time I worked in all three major areas of any advanced manufacturing operation. In engineering, especially on the original B1A bomber. In manufacturing itself on numerous advanced projects. But for most of the time I worked in quality assurance from a precision parts inspector, to a quality assurance analyst.

    So, I do think that I have some degree of knowledge of advanced manufacturing, and especially quality assurance. And although I do take a great deal of pride in what was done during that time, I am not bragging, just establishing my credentials for telling the truth!!

  8. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, almost 2 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    Sorry about that , I should have meant “Boeing” in my first post, especially as bowing was not a word that the spell checker would have caught!

  9. Peabody-Martini

    Peabody-Martini said, almost 2 years ago

    Recalling a bit of history might be useful here. This isn’t the first time Boeing had had problems with new aircraft, not by a long shot. Human error mixed with a factory defect in the then brand new 767 resulted in the infamous “Gimli Glider” incident where an Air Canada flight lost both engines and electricity. At least the fire in Boston didn’t happen at 26,000 feet.

  10. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    The 787 certainly hasn’t been “rushed into production”, and many components are indeed NOT manufactured in the U.S., that’s in part the “global economy”, but also Boeing’s antipathy toward union labor has certainly increased, and exported jobs over the last couple decades.


    Even despite the battery problem, the redundancy in civilian aircraft should NOT be done away with for “cost cutting”. I think I’d still rather fly a 787 than an A-380. Well, I’d rather fly on the Wright flyer than an A-380, but that’s another matter.

  11. dannysixpack

    dannysixpack said, almost 2 years ago

    i flew the 787 four times last year (before it was grounded). i’ve flown almost 1 million miles in the last 10 years. The Dreamliner is a WONDERFUL aircraft.

  12. MortyForTyrant

    MortyForTyrant said, almost 2 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    I am a huge space geek and I wish I could have worked around these engines too. I once traveled to Florida, Cape Canaveral, and stood near the old Saturn 5 they had put outside, vertically. All pictures one sees on TV can’t convey the size of these first stage engines. And working in QA on this is a huge responsibility. Not just in terms of the safety of the crew but also in economic terms. An abandoned mission is really costly and also a drain on popular support (like the Apollo 1 fire was). And with 2.8 million parts and “black boxes within black boxes” the Saturn 5 / Apollo spacecraft is – still, I believe – the most complex machine ever made by humans…

  13. aircraft-engineer

    aircraft-engineer said, almost 2 years ago

    so at this point, the battery itself isn’t suspect – it did DID overheat but the failure was external to the battery. Probably something errant in the charging software. Trouble is that the data recorder says nothing went wrong. Maybe some quirk about the AC component spiking the DC steady state charging voltage? (speculation – I’m no EE)

  14. aircraft-engineer

    aircraft-engineer said, almost 2 years ago

    speaking of the Boeing management row with SPEEA – the company has apparently decided to leave the contract as-is for current employees and impose the “variation” in the pension calculation/ funding on “new hires”. They have apparently decided to take the approach of “the current tech staff won’t CARE as long as THEY aren’t affected”. It IS rather difficult to strike for people who DO NOT WORK THEREYET. Perhaps SPEEA can propose that “existing” workers be offered a “buy out” proposition so that the company can know EXACTLY how much any particular pension can be cashed out. (conversely, any retiree also know EXACTLY how much money they have to work with. Dump it into a fund with the current 401k funds)

  15. MortyForTyrant

    MortyForTyrant said, almost 2 years ago

    @aircraft-engineer

    I’m also no EE, but I did this for a hobby when I was young and still do hardware when I need it. The thing you describe is basically impossible, otherwise no DC system would ever have worked.

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    You have the transformer, then 4 diodes, then one (big) capacitor, then a voltage regulator, then one (small) capacitor. It’s so easy a child can understand how to make an AC→DC unit for a given voltage.

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    You don’t need “charging software”. My Bluetooth headset has a Lithium-Ion cell (Poly-Something as well) and I’m pretty sure there is no software involved charging it. And it sure as heck didn’t fry my ears in all of it’s eight years of service :-)

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