Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller
- June 03, 2009
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Leonardeuler said, 5 months ago
After Witgenstein, there is Danae.
madKanga said, 5 months ago
“People who think they are always right infuriate those of us who are.”
rayannina said, 5 months ago
Richard Dawkins: The Early Years.
Dutchboy1 said, 5 months ago
You got that right, Rayannina.
wndrwrthg
said,
5 months ago
Religion in a nutshell.
madKanga said, 5 months ago
@rayannina & wndrwrthg : Which just goes to show there are irrational extremists on both sides of the argument.
Dracip said, 5 months ago
Hey, who’s Dawkins?
I was thinkin’ this was about the Intelligent Design religion.
But, yes Mr. wndrwrthg, religions in general do the same thing.
Dracip said, 5 months ago
Hey, madKanga, is that quote Mark Twain, Will Rogers, or George Carlin?
jml58 said, 5 months ago
My mind is already made up.
Don´t confuse me with facts.
jelzap said, 5 months ago
im right and theres nothing you cand to prove me wrong
Richard said, 5 months ago
Spoken like a true Uber-lib.
DD FENCE EMET said, 5 months ago
Speaking of ‘irony’ - add Fe to male and you get……
female. Now that’s adding a little strength the the discussion of male vs. female. However, a femisnist would say ‘see, we are stronger’. A more accurate assessment would be that a woman needs to take iron to make the sides even.
My favorite club is a sand wedge.
Nairebis said, 5 months ago
Well, Dawkins’ great “sin” is being outspoken against religion. That’s considered taboo in our culture where we’re supposed to show “respect” for people’s beliefs, no matter how outlandish they are, or how much extremists are trying to control others using them. If you criticize religion, then you must be close-minded. Dawkins’ is the ultimate in open-minded… he will consider any belief, provided there is evidence for it. Which pretty much rules out all the god(s).
mlkirk12530 said, 5 months ago
I know some politicians that must be Pre-Conceptual
DD FENCE EMET said, 5 months ago
re-legions. demoninations. political parties.
Houses divided will not stand.
Oh well.
Hope the houses gets wings before they hit the ground and start running.
Or maybe they should all sit down.
Nairebis said, 5 months ago
@revtry – Assuming you’re not trolling or just demonstrating the point of the today’s comic, it takes a lot of work to ignore that mountain of evidence, doesn’t it? Especially considering you can actually observe it happening. Evolution is absolutely as true as the world is round. Denying evolution is intellectually the same as believing the Earth is flat.
JonD17 said, 5 months ago
old quote from someone wise: Because you have silenced a man does not mean you have converted him.
Carmy
said,
5 months ago
♫ La, La, La, La, La. La. La, ♫
I’m with you Danae!
DD FENCE EMET said, 5 months ago
If evolution is true, our politicians will get wings. Oh, they already have that. The east wing and the west wing of the white house…..
la la la la la……..
They were born with wings, so no evolution there.
Just trying to calm the storm.
However, it is nice that evidence of a worldwide flood and judgment was kept for our observance in every ‘mountain range/canyons nearby ’ area on earth. Reminders are good. And good thing there are still monkeys so I know I and they are not the same. I think I will check my refridgerator to see if the bacteria has yet turned into monkeys. Or would it be fish before monkeys?
EEEK -there’s fish in my freezer…Oh, caught those last year. Whew - I almost changed my mind.
la la la la la la………
Don’t let em scare you, revrty. I was just advised to ‘play nice’ on this site. Try to keep a little humor in the mix, as it is a comic section. Maybe we can all find some degree of humor in the other side - and run like crazy with the batton. Or is it baton? That stick they pass along in a race - what’s the right spelling?
That last move was a trick I learned from a doctor who tried to get my mind off of a hemmoroid lance by saying he like my sandals just before……. well, you know.
I think the earth is flat now.
crunkbot said, 5 months ago
sigh
Again: Science says NOTHING about God’s role in the creation or development of life – it neither supports NOR refutes it. “Evolution” is a description of an observable mechanism. It no more challenges religious faith than the equations engineers use to guide a spacecraft or predict the stresses a building can tolerate.
plus4 said, 5 months ago
Nairebis - I’ll bet you don’t even know what people believe who don’t accept evolutionism. You accuse them of ignorance because you think they think things they don’t really think.
Very basically, “evolution” would not be just any change, like fish losing eyes (a loss), and it’s not just adaptation or selection, as with antibiotic resistance. It would have to be the addition of a new feature, or something becoming something it truly wasn’t before. That’s what there is no observation or evidence of.
In real life, “pre-conceptual” scientists like evolutionists do not ignore evidence like Danae does. Instead, they find a way to steer it in the direction they want it to go, even though it would never go there on its own.
If you think evolution is proven or observed, or that “all scientists” agree on it, you (like most people) have a LOT to learn. I hope you make the effort.
Christopher said, 5 months ago
preconceptual science = global warming
plus4 said, 5 months ago
Regarding Dawkins: It’s very clear that he has a lot of anger against religion, and from what I understand he has experienced I don’t blame him. The problem his, he has rejected “God” because of what an obviously false representative of “God” did – thus ironically joining the very team he should be opposing.
There is a lot of anger in Dawkins arguments, and many easily recognizable logical fallacies. But there is not sound logic or proof. He outrageously overrates his words if he thinks they are compelling enough to give pause to those who don’t already agree with him.
wndrwrthg
said,
5 months ago
Man created god in his own image.
DD FENCE EMET said, 5 months ago
I……. am Emmet Smith. Alias, of course. The real Emmet Smith plays football.
How do you’all like my beard? its really a bunch of bees if you look close. It used to be hair, but then I waited a really long time and it turned into bees when I wouldn’t let anyone trim it.
I changed my photo yesterday, but it happened to fit well into today’s now very tedious discussion. I think I’m going for a bike ride to see the wheels go round and round, and because the earth is flat again, I can bike a really long time!
I think I have some plus 4 on my Ipod. Are you a band?
Kaero said, 5 months ago
Hey, Wiley. Looks like you’re going to have to draw this storyline to a conclusion lest some of your clientele give themselves an aneurysm explaining how their point of view is right-right-right and if you a) dare to question what they believe or b) take umbrage at their questioning what you believe, you are an extremist nut-job. With the economy I’m sure you’d like to keep as much of your audience alive as possible…extremist nut-jobs or not.
dstufff said, 5 months ago
C’mon everyone - lighten up on the religion / politics / science blather. Let’s just enjoy the comic as a comic and nothing more.
Nairebis said, 5 months ago
I don’t expect people to suddenly accept reality based on postings on a comic strip. But I take heart at the fact that the Internet has allowed atheists to “come out of the closet” without the fear of social ostracization that we’ve had in the past. It’s not about waking up old people, who are probably too far gone, but it’s about making it acceptable for young people to think independently and know that they aren’t alone when they see that religion and all the different gods really seem absurd.
I predict it’ll probably take another 50 years for atheism to exceed the magic 50% level in the population. Mark my words, that will be the biggest thing that the Internet helps bring about. It’s much more difficult to remain in ignorance when communicating with so many different people, rather than the insulated communities of the past.
So while the ignorance such as what I see here is often disheartening, I know that there is a better day coming. Someday we’ll finally shake off the yoke of myths and legends.
TheInquisitor said, 5 months ago
“There is a lot of anger in Dawkins arguments, and many easily recognizable logical fallacies”
Care to give an example of these logical fallacies rather than simply alluding to them?
Wildmustang1262 said, 5 months ago
♫ Doo, Doo, Doo, Doo, Doo. Doo. Doooo… ♫
dasandman said, 5 months ago
La La La La La
There are no ridiculous evolution/creationsim/science/religion debates on these boards
La La La La La
teeterman said, 5 months ago
Adaptation is not Evolution and Science DOES support the bibles references to science.
Trebor39 said, 5 months ago
Evolution is a reality and religious belief is not denied by it.
Richard said, 5 months ago
I will bet Al Gore is la la la laing too.
Reynard61 said, 5 months ago
**Signal Lost**
DD FENCE EMET said, 5 months ago
chiastic structure wins again!
grazer said, 5 months ago
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “La-La-La-La” and there was light.
Tigger
said,
5 months ago
sadly, this is the Mindset of all Politicians
DD FENCE EMET said, 5 months ago
Very nice way to eat the greens, grazer. The should be non-gmo.
madKanga said, 5 months ago
I haven’t found any other comic on this site that attracts the consistent number of comments that Wiley does - agreed not all comments are sensible, but many do show some significant thought about the ideas behind the strip.
Well done Wiley!
oCinneide said, 5 months ago
madKanga, have you been over to “Pibgorn” any time recent? Lots of comments, many on topic, many entertaining ones off. Come on over and enjoy!
damarpi said, 5 months ago
EMET of the Bee Beard, you have taught us – almost taught– a new word, or a word new to me: chiastic. It’s not in my dictionary, but I assume it’s related to the Greek khiazein, “to mark with a Khi (letter X),” i.e., “to cross,” and especially to the past participle of khiazein, khiastos, “crossed. ” How this relates in the context of the conversation, though, in the sentence “Chiastic structure wins again!” is puzzling. Could you please finish the process of enlightening us? I’m new at this site, and this is the first commentary I have followed; but the cartoon itself certainly invited all kinds of spin-off – and got it!
madKanga said, 5 months ago
@oCinneide - Yes, I have seen Pibgorn, but usually I see it rather early in the day, so the only comment is fear-ciuil’s standard intro.
Whereas I tend to come back to non sequitur to read the comments before looking at the new day’s offering.
Pibgorn is really aimed at a different audience, I think - I suspect I must be a troll.
Superfrog said, 5 months ago
All seems perfectly reasonable to me.
trigger_hippie
said,
5 months ago
so true