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  1. emptc12

    emptc12 said, about 3 years ago

    It’s interesting to look back at the vitriolic editorial cartoons published when Roosevelt was urging on Social Security. It seems in many ways we are reliving political and economic conditions from the first decades of the 20th Century. Can we possibly learn anything from back then? Just asking.

  2. ODon

    ODon said, about 3 years ago

    The bull is in the ’toon.

  3. Enoki

    Enoki said, about 3 years ago

    I smell something and it’s coming out of that bull…

  4. Wraithkin

    Wraithkin said, about 3 years ago


    Yes. Plans that seem like a good idea today will eventually bankrupt us tomorrow. When SS was designed, it had 13 people paying in for every 1 person drawing, and the life expectancy was something like 60-62 years old. Now, we have 3:1 paying in/drawing, and average life expectancy is in the upper 70’s. More people drawing off fewer people, for a longer time is a recipe for insolvency. This is going to be the same thing, only at a much more accelerated cost growth curve.

  5. John Locke

    John Locke said, about 3 years ago

    Obamacare added onto Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment Compensation, and Food Stamps is breaking the country. We are out of money and borrowing at our limit. How can America do great things if every single dollar goes to handouts? Never again a dam, interstate highway, exploring outer space, etc. How pathetic we have become.

  6. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, about 3 years ago

    @John Locke

    But we have plenty enough money to bomb the bejesus out of anywhere in the world we want. Money for death, no money for quality of life. Maybe it’s time to re-order our priorities, eh?

  7. jack75287

    jack75287 said, about 3 years ago

    It is not that President Obama, the Democrats or even the Republicans are the clown. It is we the people who let it happen, we have the government we deserve.

  8. jack75287

    jack75287 said, about 3 years ago

    They are not profiting under Obamacare, all those people who are being dropped save them money while they rake in more money from the government.

  9. jimgc

    jimgc said, about 3 years ago


    Yes. Except for our national debt. And you want vitriolic cartoons? There are 8 years of them with GW Bush.

  10. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    emptc 12: My mom just turned 101, and I have all her scrapbooks and “materials” she stored over many years. She was extremely right-wing all those years and it IS interesting all the insulting columns, clippings, commentaries, toons, and letters from Republican politicians she accumulated over the years.

    It IS those decades of “conservative” materials that pretty much put up as bull all the right-wingers’ claims of “hateful” liberals!!

    Interestingly, Ike (who had a mistress himself for decades) was the most “civil” (perhaps his military background), but it didn’t stop him from letting Joe McCarthy do the dirty work for him!

    While it was Ike who sent the troops to Little Rock, changes after Johnson signed the Civil Rights acts,did change the “racial complex”, which IS the real issue behind most folks objections to Obama.

  11. jack75287

    jack75287 said, about 3 years ago

    Dycel here are some links:

    The above says between 14 to 28 million
    And last CNN:

  12. emptc12

    emptc12 said, about 3 years ago


    Agreed. I suppose an analogy would be a large tree that’s planted next to your house. It provided shade in its prime years, but now it’s grown over the house with large, heavy branches and the roots are cracking the foundation. The tree has to be trimmed; or another, more practical one planted – or several types.
    Do you think if Social Security had been mandatory for all, including our elite politicians, it would have been handled better – or even worse? No system survives without occasional tweaking, and SS in addition was a political plaything for many years.
    But if it or something like it had not been put in place back then, I really think the country would have gone Socialist or had a serious uprising. The coming of World War II was probably a relief to many in charge at the time.

  13. emptc12

    emptc12 said, about 3 years ago


    Political cartoons in the past were shockingly nasty, and the ones today are polite by comparison. I suppose it depended on the paper and if the owner insisted his political views be exclusively shown. It was like “professional wrestling” with political issues. Somewhere – please, it’s too late in the day for me to search for the link – cartoons specific to the Social Security issue are shown.
    And the genre wasn’t as cartoonish as it is today – it was artistic and the subjects lightly caricatured so they were easily recognizable. The backdrops were realistic and noble, a sort of patriotic/ religious style. In contrast, the characters to be ridiculed were lots of bearded, Bolshevik anarchists; political bosses smoking cee-gars and wearing pinkie rings; and pot-bellied plutocrats carrying bank bags with $$s on them. You definitely knew the good guys from the bad. Many people viewed the editorial art instead of reading the actual editorials, and formed their views from them. Politicians knew this and often threatened publishers for what they considered unfair portrayals.
    I’m sure to many of you this is nothing new. To others, please research this on the Web if you have time.The history of editorial art is very entertaining and instructive. I’ve given a very superficial view of it here.

  14. emptc12

    emptc12 said, about 3 years ago


    What a treasure scrapbooks like that are. Hold onto them, or at least at some point donate them to an educational institution. There’s a lot of digitized information available, but there’s nothing like holding actual clippings in your hand.
    My father saved the whole newspaper issue when a special event took place. How cool to see all the ads and current news and old comics! (“Smokey Stover” was my favorite. I was bedazzled by the female anatomy of the “Li’l Abner” characters.) Photographs were less used than illustrations back then. The illustrators drew packaged merchandise, appliances, and characters wearing underwear. Is newspaper illustration a lost art? I enjoyed illustrations in my old textbooks, too. It’s probably all photography, now.

  15. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    @John Locke

    “Never again a dam, interstate highway, exploring outer space, etc.”

    The GOP doesn’t want to spend money for that either. The only job creation that the GOP seems to recognize as supporting jobs, go to the military complex. I’d rather build great things here than blow up great things elsewhere.

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