Michael Ramirez by Michael Ramirez

Michael Ramirez

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  1. pavlov

    pavlov said, almost 2 years ago

    Well if movies and video games don’t influence a certain segment of society then why do we have commercials and ads.

  2. misterdantes

    misterdantes said, almost 2 years ago

    Ramirez, you bozo, Hollywood movies, being America’s first commercial export product, are watched all over the world. And you always hear about the mass murders in schools in Hong Kong or in London where people watch as much Hollywood movies as Americans, right? (HK and London are two places where guns are 100% banned, for your info).
    Keep blaming a supposed influence and avoid talking about the actual problem. The Bible is filled with battles, killing, revenge. Shouldn’t we, by the same logic, conclude that it is going to turn every easily influenced reader into a murdering maniac? Let’s censor it, just in case….

    If watching Hollywood movies makes people violent, reading Michael Ramirez would certainly turn them into stupid bigots.
    One could make the point that if we were to censor Hollywood movies, why grant freedom of speech to Ramirez? Luckily, the first amendment allows both to exist, so say thank you Ramirez.

    The difference is that it is easier to get a gun and spread death than getting a spot as an editorial cartoonist. The problem is not the influence, it is giving influenced people the ability to act upon it.
    You won’t be able to foresee absolutely someone snaps, becomes mad, violent, desires to kill. You can make it easier to see it coming by providing better treatment care and watch in schools, hospitals… But the easiest part, is to make it hard for them to find a gun when they think they need it.

  3. eepatt

    eepatt said, almost 2 years ago

    @misterdantes

    Very good response to a really wrongheaded cartoon.

  4. Chillbilly

    Chillbilly said, almost 2 years ago

    I’d say the head of the NRA could win that award.

  5. Clark  Kent

    Clark Kent said, almost 2 years ago

    hollywierd isn’t the cause of violence, just crummy movies.

  6. mikefive

    mikefive said, almost 2 years ago

    Although this accusation is often made of Hollywood films, I have serious reservations as to it’s veracity. During the 1950s and 60s many movies had considerable violence in them as did many television shows. Nearly every boy possessed a cap pistol and the playing of cowboys and Indians, cops and robbers, and army was a ubiquitous after school activity.

    Having said this, one would think that if Hollywood films and television programs (and toy guns) were heavily contributory to an attitude that would result in a major school shooting incident, the trend would have started in the early 1970’s and accelerated from there, but that is not the case. Major school shootings didn’t start until the late 1990s.

    If I were to look for a reason for these major school shootings, Hollywood productions would not be my primary consideration . I would look at other major societal changes and perhaps then consider said productions as a possible though improbable secondary or tertiary contributing factor.

  7. John Locke

    John Locke said, almost 2 years ago

    Violent crime and murder rates in the U.S. are half what they were in 2002 (FBI.gov). We’ll never be able to legislate away random acts of insanity.

  8. wmconelly

    wmconelly said, almost 2 years ago

    Murder rates in the U.S. are half what they were in 2002 (FBI.gov) because emergency healthcare for gunshot wounds is 5 times better than it was ten years ago.

    We’ll never be able to legislate away random acts of insanity, but giving the borderline insane rapid fire weapons — tons of ’em — is insane outright.

  9. Kylie2112

    Kylie2112 said, almost 2 years ago

    @ScottPM

    American action flicks and first-person shooters do incredibly well overseas. Japan has an annual homicide rate (100 million people) that is on par with New York City’s MONTHLY homicide rate (10 million people), yet they PRODUCE movies and games that are incredibly violent as well.
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    Violence goes back a LOT further than the 1970s when this stuff became the norm.

  10. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, almost 2 years ago

    @olfart

    Why should you sacrifice either my brother? Give the mentally ill proper care, remove criminals from society permanently.

  11. John Locke

    John Locke said, almost 2 years ago

    wmconelly. If one were to speculate, better emergency room care sounds like a good reason for reduced deaths by violence. So do many other speculative reasons, ie. aging baby boomers, better policing practices and technology, tougher sentencing, etc. I’m not sure anyone “gives” borderline insane people rapid fire weapons. Why don’t you speculate on why people go insane (children of divorce, no spiritual guidance, etc.)? It would seem to be a more fruitful pastime. The FACTS are, violent crime and murder rates are half what they were ten years ago. We should celebrate such an improvement. Utopia is only possible in a police state and then it’s not a Utopia, is it.

  12. corzak

    corzak said, almost 2 years ago

    @misterdantes

    "Ramirez, you bozo . . . "

    lol! Don’t pick on poor Ramirez. His job is to faithfully repeat the party line. In toto. No deviation or editing allowed . . .

  13. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    @misterdantes

    I agree and disagree. Tightening up controls on gun shows, private sales, linking state and federal databases to better reflect people with “mental/emotional issues” that are a threat, sure. I still don’t think prohibition works. It’s a convenient knee jerk cost free response for government to take but it does little to resolve the problem.


    You are right about movies and video games. I know lots of adults and kids that play video games that aren’t at risk of “going over the top.” The problem lies with the small percentage of people who violent action represents a recognition they have never been able to get in life. Their ideation of fame and recognition through violence grows as their rational minds deteriorate. Are they influenced by said media? Probably. Mental health professionals today worry that kids are being desensitized by movies and video games. I’ve worked doing drug and alcohol counseling with teenagers and too often seen that in action.


    Statistically I would say that the percentage of people who are “affected” by violent media is miniscule. Just like the number of people that go nuts and commit mass murder is miniscule to the overall population of people that own firearms.


    Your point about the rest of the world watching violent media and not having the crime and murder rates is well taken. It illustrates a long held point by sociologists that America is and always has been a “violent culture.” When you add to that the deterioration of the family structure and the insecurity that puts on kids you are just fueling the fire.


    Japan loves video games and yet is one of the safest countries considering their crimes rates etc. It’s a cultural issue first and foremost. They have better treatment of mental illness. They have a much greater emphasis on family and caring for one another. There are any number of differences to point to, but my point is: with our current population of gun owners and firearms in the millions, it is unlikely that prohibition will work. Even just considering the dreaded assault rifles, there are millions of them in existence and a significant number were not bought and registered though federal databases.

  14. The Wolf In Your Midst

    The Wolf In Your Midst said, almost 2 years ago

    This entire “blame the media” mindset is a load of crap. Human beings have been violent towards each other for thousands of years- are you going to tell me that a certain former Austrian corporal with a funny moustache was miffed because he kept getting “owned” by “RabbiOfPain” in Call of Duty? I’ve watched violent movies and played violent games for years- and I’ve never been in so much as a fistfight, and the thought of killing another human being without the most urgent reason sickens me.
    And what bothers me the most is all these parents complaining “oh, my kid plays too many of these violent games”. YOU’RE THE PARENT, MAKE THE KID STOP!

  15. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    Right wing movies like Red Dawn are at fault.

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