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   denis1112 said, 6 months ago

   If the jihad jerks laid down their arms there would be peace.If Isreal laid down their arms they would all be killed,every man woman and child.Just like Hitler wanted.
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   jack75287 said, 6 months ago

   God that is the truth you know some one yesterday said this was all Israels fault.
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   disgustedtaxpayer said, 6 months ago

   Amen, denis & jack.
   today at pjmedia.com, Barry Rubin “Israeli-Hamas War and the Arab Suicide Strategy”….an excerpt=

   “Israel wants a ceasefire; Hamas doesn’t. Even the New York Times will tell you that:

   “Hamas, badly outgunned on the battlefield, appeared to be trying to exploit its increased political clout with its ideological allies in Egypt’s new Islamist-led government. The group’s leaders, rejecting Israel’s call for an immediate end to the rocket attacks, have instead laid down sweeping demands that would put Hamas in a stronger position than when the conflict began: an end to Israel’s five-year-old embargo of the Gaza Strip, a pledge by Israel not to attack again and multinational guarantees that Israel would abide by its commitments.”

   In other words, Hamas is demanding that in the future it can import whatever it wants and will have the right to attack Israel without retaliation. Note that the first demand isn’t even necessary for Hamas. After all, it can now get almosteverything it wants through the Egyptian-Gaza border. So this list of items is just designed as an excuse to keep the fighting going…."
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   ansonia said, 6 months ago

   @denis1112

   True.
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   Dredpiraterobt$ said, 6 months ago

   @denis1112

   “If the jihad jerks laid down their arms there would be peace…”
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   Do you have any proof of this?
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   How well did laying down arms work out for the Jews under Hitler?
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   But you’re sure it’d be fine this time! Because the Jews are “different” right? Isn’t that why Hitler was committed to killing them? Because they were “different?”
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   But they aren’t really different are they? All men are basically the same, aren’t we? No? (Then there is your major malfunction, and we can work on it from there.) Yes? Then we need to understand that, being just lke the rest of us, the Jews aren’t so Simon Pure that just laying down of arms is any guarantee of safety.
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   There is an election coming up in January of 2013. How do you know that this isn’t about that?
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   “If Isreal laid down their arms they would all be killed,every man woman and child.”
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   Everybody knows that when you play with Israel, you play with the USA. Israel could be a naked woman in a lumber camp and nobody is going to touch her unless they want to deal with her friend, Paul Bunyon!
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   But if Israel lays down it’s arms it also has to stop trying to kill the palestinians by starving them to death!
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   . ungh…
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   What am I doing here?
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   This is pointless… Nothing against Denis1112… but there is NOTHING NEW in the Israel /Gaza mess! Not one thing!
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   It’s not as if Denis1112, and Jack75287 and disgustedtaxpayer haven’t heard what I have to say before. They’ve heard it ten thousand times. Just like I’ve heard their side ten thousand times.
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   I think I have the facts on my side and they think they have the obviousness of the situation on their side. And they are right!
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   Obviously, if there weren’t aggression there wouldn’t be aggression… The British came in and took over your country, get over it… The UN and the US deemed Israel a fitting award of compensation to create the Zionist state. The people who have lived in Israel for the past thousand plus years should just accept that they have no claim to it. Just ask the country that has been there for a screaming 600 years!
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   Why argue, they aren’t going to isten to you, they aren’t going to listen to me… They being both the Israelis and the Palestinians.
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   They’re both just so boring and predictable….
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   Radish said, 6 months ago

   I wonder what Ramirez thought of that peace symbol during the Vietnam war.
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   Quipss said, 6 months ago

   so 5 israeli deaths, no injurys as opposed to around 120 palistinian deaths and a little over 1200 sevearly injured, poor Israel, Kind of like if I get punched in bar I pull out a gun, shoot the guy then proceed to hunt down his family and once they are wiped off the earth I say how I’m the victem.

   The issue is the Hamas continue rocket attacks and israel continues to emmiserial strikes. The reality is that both sides have to agree to cease fire, not just Hamas. The demands put forth are not for Israel to disarm but for Israel not to do pre-emmiserial strikes.
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   hanmari said, 6 months ago

   The Israelis have a religious world view that says God will protect them against their enemies. The Palestinians have a religious world view that they need to murder anyone who doesn’t believe in their religion. Both are committed, but the Israelis focus on defense while the Palestinians focus on attacks through terror. When the Palestinians do get up the gumption to try to wage war, they launch their rockets from residential neighborhoods and use human shields. The Palestinians then whine when Israel hits them back. I stand with Israel. If you want to back the terrorists, go ahead.
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   disgustedtaxpayer said, 6 months ago

   @hanmari….God will bless you for standing with Israel.
   Q= I see a difference in that many Israelis may have the view that God will protect them but Israel has a secular government.
   whereas the PLA and Hamas and all Muslim governments are a welding together of secular and religion. Even the Global Jihad terror network is a melding of politics and religion.
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   I believe the Jews truly desire real absense of war…because for 2,000 years everywhere on earth they have been, they have been the target of hate, abuse and persecution. They want to be able to live and be safe from Haters of Jews.
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    olfart said, 6 months ago

    The United States does not have a friend in this fight. We have been attacked by both sides. I pity the civilians, but better them than Americans.
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    I Play One On TV said, 6 months ago

    This has been going on for thousands of years, and I think it’s safe to say that unless you are there to witness things, you cannot be sure that you are witnessing the truth.

    Having said that…..I have to wonder about the Palestinians. The British “won” that territory as spoils of World War II, and decided to divide it into a Jewish state, Israel, and a Palestinian state, Jordan. The Palestinians who didn’t want to move to Jordan stayed where they are.

    To call them “refugees”, under these circumstances, does not make sense to me. And if I were a refugee, expecting concessions from the new government of that same land, I would have realized that, after 64 years of being a “refugee”, it’s time for me to stand on my own two feet, and realize that no one’s going to hand me anything. That time, if it ever existed, is long gone.

    I think it’s safe to say that, if they were Americans in a similar predicament, their American allies would take care of them, and not just by supplying them with weapons. The allies would transport them to a safe place. Their Arab brethren control Egypt, Libya, most of Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen….did I leave anyone out? Oh, Jordan, too.
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    lifebyc said, 6 months ago

    My, God, Ramirez, I actually agree with you today. A poster said yesterday, “What would happen if the enemies of Israel put down their weapons? Nothing. What would happen if Israel put down their weapons? They would be destroyed overnight.” I couldn’t agree more. That being said, they need to come to the international table and find a two state solution, because it’s equally true that when you back someone into a corner, they fight. Israel needs to stop developing on contested lands and sit down and carve out a Palestine – AFTER the rockets stop.
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    jack75287 said, 6 months ago

    @Quipss

    That only holds if the initial attack is over. The rocket attacks have not stopped yet.
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    jack75287 said, 6 months ago

    @lifebyc

    Israel already have. Now the Palestinians are back for more.
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    dannysixpack said, 6 months ago

    Hamas calls for a cease-fire when they need to reload.
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