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   SkepticCal said, 7 months ago

   Keep the government’’s hands out of my pockets.
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   See the US Constitution for guidelines.
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   dtroutma said, 7 months ago

   ^Skipschool: I’ve read it, enforced it, and fought for it. You’ve done none.
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   BrassOrchid said, 7 months ago

   But can we abort the unintended consequences of an unwanted act of Congress forced upon us by a strong majority? The line for morning-after pills opens on Nov. 6.
   We are always our own worst enemy. Symmetry is enforced.
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   Gresch said, 7 months ago

   When does the unborn have rights? is it because women can vote and the unborn can not… oh wow what pandering…
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   fritzoid said, 7 months ago

   @Gresch

   “When does the unborn have rights?”
   

   
   The benchmark these days is generally “When the unborn can exist independently of the woman,” i.e. “viability.” If the line between “fertilized egg” and “human being” has to be drawn somewhere (as it seems it must), I’m pretty comfortable with that.
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   kamwick said, 7 months ago

   Perfect delineation of the issue. The GOP are hypocrites, pure and simple.
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   Gresch said, 7 months ago

   @fritzoid

   So according to you the unborn has rights at about 20 to 26 weeks… such we start the request for the ammemdment to constitution on this basis.
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   Respectful Troll said, 7 months ago

   There is a hypocrisy when a person calls for less government regulation of banks, industry, and the environment, but more regulation on how an individual conducts their personal health choices.
   Respectfully,
   C.
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   DrCanuck said, 7 months ago

   @Gresch

   Carrots can’t vote either. Do you lobby for their rights as well?
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    fritzoid said, 7 months ago

    @Gresch

    “So according to you the unborn has rights at about 20 to 26 weeks… such we start the request for the ammemdment to constitution on this basis.”
    

    
    I said that’s the general benchmark as it stands, and I’m comfortable with it (I also think you’d get some argument about the lowest threshold for viability, but I’m not the one to make it). And we don’t need a Constitutional amendment, because that’s more or less how the law stands under Roe vs Wade: First two trimesters, no restrictions; third trimester, restrictions can be placed, but no outright ban. In cases where the mother’s health is in danger, I think that is ALWAYS the first consideration, even if you’re at 8 months, three weeks, and 6 days, and that needs to be at the discretion of the woman and her doctor, not of the courts.
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    fritzoid said, 7 months ago

    Re “viability:”
    

    
    Who knows? Maybe someday a woman five weeks into an unwanted pregnancy will be able to walk into a clinic and have the embryo removed on an out-patient basis, and it is then lovingly transferred to an artificial uterus where it grows into a healthy baby who is immediately adopted by loving parents (who have presumably paid for the gestation). When that is an option, check in with me again.
    

    
    But as it stands, as I said we seem to have to draw an arbitrary line, because claiming that a fertilized egg is a human being with rights is as absurd as claiming that a newborn infant is not. The line is currently drawn at around the beginning of the third trimester, and I’m comfortable with that.
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    apfelzra said, 7 months ago

    An excellent example of the Republican Right’s hypocrisy on national health issues.
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    dtroutma said, 7 months ago

    Zit: “skepticcal” has many, many, posts, that prove my point.
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    Wabbit said, 7 months ago

    I took this to mean it’s OK to regulate women’s bodies, but hands off the male body. that would go along with the men know best of the republican pre-supposition. the democrat pre-supposition is men and women both are endowed by their Creator and are both are supposed to live with every right being equal.
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    disgustedtaxpayer said, 7 months ago

    Proabortionists use false arguments
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    abortion is killing….murder of the most helpless human on earth.
    If murder of the preborn is “legal” then why not give everyone the “right” to kill anyone that they choose to kill?
    Why legalize abortion murders of preborn humans and keep laws on the books to protect animals?
    The true HYPOCRITEs are the pro-abortion people whose mothers did not abort them…..
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