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Matt Bors

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  1. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    Actual size is about a quarter of an inch & looks like this:

  2. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    And earthworms have a similar “heartbeat”.

  3. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, over 1 year ago

    So if you ^^ had a pregnant wife (somehow) and she was shot and your soon to be daughter was killed in the womb, you would just say “Oh well, it was just a tiny worm-like creature”?

  4. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @ConserveGov

    Most women wouldn’t even know for sure they were pregnant at 6 weeks. Most home pregnancy tests aren’t accurate until a week after the first missed period.

    Would you call for tighter gun laws if your pregnant wife was shot by a convicted felon who regained his gun rights with the help of an pro-NRA lwayer?

  5. BrassOrchid

    BrassOrchid GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    Thus opening the door to defining the point at which life begins as the point at which brain activity is detectable, since any body void of brain activity is deemed vegetative and able to be destroyed without the concept of killing attached.
    Naturally, THAT opens the door to defining life as the moment when independent will is achieved, which only happens when one deliberately and of their own volition joins the dominant political ideology of the day in whatever dark age of low understanding one inhabits.

  6. rossevrymn

    rossevrymn said, over 1 year ago

    It amazes me how liberals can’t handle the idea of competing rights for this case, but so well get it for whatever else they want, cigarette smoker restrictions, big soda restrictions, gun ownership restrictions, ………………… otherwise known by themselves when they speak of others as “hypocrites”.

  7. Lynne B

    Lynne B GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @rossevrymn

    Turn it around.

    I, as an adult woman with a fully functional nervous system, an awareness, a consciousness, and perception, do not like being told that I am certainly no more a person than a largely undifferentiated clump of cells with no perception, no possilibity of perception at that stage, no awareness, no consciousness, nothing except bare cellular activity. That reduces me to the legal status of an amoeba or a colonial algae, essentially, by telling me that this group of cells is equal in importance to me.


    The woman is an actual person. To say that there are “competing interests” for a group of cells that has none of the same functionality that a woman or a person has, is a slap in the face. And will only end up with much more real damage to actual, born people, as well, since banning abortions has never stopped them from happening – it just means they become illegal and dangerous.


    Which as many of us know is actually the goal; not to save lives, but to punish women for being “sluts.” Nevermind the reality.

  8. Lynne B

    Lynne B GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @ansonia

    No it isn’t. It is not only fact-based, it is entirely relevant to the point of “when human life begins.”


    We say that a life has ended when there is no brain activity detectable. It doesn’t matter if the heart is beating or not; all the heart needs to beat is enough cells and a calcium ion gradient. But whether or not the brain is functional, matters.


    So for what reason would we define a life as beginning before there is a functional brain? Why would we define it as “a life”, rather than as “the possibility of a future life, and currently living cells”, when there is no brain activity, and no functional brain?


    And explain to me, seriously, why a person, with a functional brain to the point of having even rudimentary consciousness, is not more important than a group of stem cells?

  9. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 1 year ago

    @BrassOrchid

    Geez, BrassOrchid, and I thought I could be sometimes cynical.

  10. ossiningaling

    ossiningaling said, over 1 year ago

    I’m with you, Lynne. Thanks for contributing to the dialog.

  11. Fourcrows

    Fourcrows said, over 1 year ago

    Aside from a hysterectomy, no birth control method is 100%. Condoms break or leak, diaphragms and IUD’s can shift, pills are based on modifying hormones and menstrual cycles, and even vasectomies are capable of self-repair. Also, rape happens, and date rape, where a woman is taken advantage of in a less than cohesive state. For many couples, a child (or an additional child) means severe financial consequences, resulting in another family on welfare, or another unloved/unwanted child more likely to become a criminal, or another child who ends up a ward of the state because not every child can be adopted.
    If you want abortion to be 100% illegal, than you must also increase the percentage of our tax dollars to go towards our welfare system, to ensure that every child born can be well cared for and educated. Also increase the money to our public healthcare system, so these expectant mothers are fully cared for with no need for an abortion.
    In other words, provide a viable, working alternative to abortion, and don’t complain about your tax money going to support welfare babies and moms.

  12. Ruff

    Ruff GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    If you don’t like abortions, don’t have one !

  13. Lynne B

    Lynne B GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @ossiningaling

    For some things, we have to keep speaking up…and keep speaking up, and keep speaking up, and keep speaking up.


    The scary part is that the Catholic Church has actually done its best to make abortion unavailable for any, under any circumstance – even when the pregnancy cannot be saved, and *is*going to kill the mother.


    This is an unhealthy fetishization of the fetus, not the actions of any group which “values life.” To the contrary, it does not seem to value life at all.

  14. Lynne B

    Lynne B GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @David

    True.


    Not to mention that a far larger part of their business, and one that they do get funding for, is preventing unwanted pregnancies through appropriate and affordable contraception, and health services (including prenatal) for women.


    In a culture which genuinely valued life, they would be celebrating the existence of any organization which did so much to help women prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place, as well as look after women’s health. They would want to see it better funded and more accessible, rather than trying to demonize or deny what it actually does, and by defunding it make unplanned pregnancies in fact all the more probable.


    There is an interesting perspective here, on a former pro-life woman who came to see some of the problems.

  15. Kylie2112

    Kylie2112 said, over 1 year ago

    Mother > fetus. I’ll never have to make that decision (sterile guy parts, and sex reassignment doesn’t create internal organs), but you can’t tell me that a decision that isn’t your’s to make should be up to the government to decide.
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    The woman, doctor, and possibly father (if it were consentual sex) should be the only parties making that decision. I’m pro-choice because that’s what it is. It’s not my choice to make.

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