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  1. Corosive Frog

    Corosive Frog said, 8 months ago

    Anyone ever talked to someone who actually did a tour of duty in Afghanistan? The talibans are f#cked up, no doubt, but our allies just as much.
    It’s a problem with the whole country and you can’t bomb someone into civilization. Let’s GTFO of there!

  2. ReasonsVentriloquist

    ReasonsVentriloquist said, 8 months ago

    Not to defend the Afghanistanis but…

    “wuth friends like these who needs enemies”?
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    Why wouldn’t every Afghani be saying the same thing about the USA?
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    How many Afghan civilians have been killed by our indiscriminate bombs? Tens or scores of thousands?

  3. Radish

    Radish said, 8 months ago

    What are we getting out of it?

  4. braindead08

    braindead08 said, 8 months ago

    The ChickenHawk wants the military to decide what to do in Afghanistan. That’s how a real leader expresses his leadership, no?
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    And, the ChickenHawk was highly critical of our pulling troops out of Iraq.
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    And, the ChickenHawk really, really, really wished he could have been with the troops in Viet Nam. Really. Except he got all those deferments.
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    Boy, we really need to elect a leader like Willard. After he’s elected, he’ ll know what to do about Afghanistan.
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    Really.

  5. cjr53

    cjr53 said, 8 months ago

    @Corosive Frog

    Yes. A relative by marriage was there. It is nasty. Bring our troops home.

  6. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, 8 months ago

    @braindead08

    BRAINDEAD: Right… a real leader takes 6 months to decide on a surge in Afghanistan, then in the same breath announces a date-specific withdrawal date regardless of conditions on the ground and regardless of opinions and objections of the military leaders that he himself put in place.

    The result is a mad dash to up-train Afghan troops for a date late next year where Afghan forces are handed the lead in combat operations, resulting in a piss-poor vetting process and US soldiers getting shot in the back.

    This was, after all, the war that Obama called alternately “the Good war”, “the Right war” and “the Necessary war”. If he wasn’t in it to win it, he should have bugged out.

    Obama: leadership you can count on (to get it wrong)

  7. braindead08

    braindead08 said, 8 months ago

    @churchillwasright

    ^Fair enough.
    I may have someof this wrong and I’m sure I’ll get corrected, if so.
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    As I remember it, Obama wanted to get out, but wanted to ‘listened to the commanders on the ground’. The commanders wanted more troops (as usual). I believe Obama said they could have more troops for a limited time, but it wasn’t open ended. The agreement was that if they couldn’t make significant progress by about now, the troops would begin coming out.
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    About the mad dash to up-train Afghans — how long do you think it should take? We have been there ten years. What was going on before Obama?
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    What progress have we made in ten years? What are the objectives for staying there? How long for them to be achieved?
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    And what is it you think Willard the ChickenHawk will do if elected? He SAYS he’ll let the military decide.
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    Is that your definition of leadership? And what do you think the military brass will decide?

  8. braindead08

    braindead08 said, 8 months ago

    And, still no comments in praise of Willard.

  9. dtroutma

    dtroutma said, 8 months ago

    Exactly who in Afghanistan in any way offered us a welcome mat to enter their country and destroy it?

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