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  1. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, over 3 years ago

    Guys, get off the hate the other guy thing. It’s big government not bush/cheney/obama. The politicians have an idea they sell it to the people and then screw it up. Not once but every time.

    What a nice name. No child left behind indeed. You would think that that would mean the teacher would work one on one with the student until the student understood the assignment and could pass any exam given. But no, it’s much easier to coach them on the answers to a standard test.

  2. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, over 3 years ago

    The real problem is bad measurement and false assumptions about how education works. You get what you measure, and that means that if you measure schools according to the average performance of their students, they have a motive to kick out anyone not performing! It happened in Texas (where the Bush campaign diddled with the numbers — okay, they lied — when advertising the success of the NCLB precursor program). If the intent of good teaching is to reach kids who might struggle a bit more, then NCLB works to exactly the opposite of that.
    The national version isn’t really any better than the Texan version, despite bipartisan support. They’re relying on what are, frankly, simpleminded tests of knowledge without reference to reasoning.
    To Bruce’s point, the central question is what you intend public education to be. Are you really trying to educate the whole population? Or only those who find it easy to learn the way most schools happen to teach?

  3. eepatt

    eepatt said, over 3 years ago

    I think you are correct, Eryx. I ddon’t know why this idea does not get more attention.

    @howie: Of course you are 100% correct. There were no weak teachers under bush II, Bush I or Ronnie Raygun. You will NEVER have sunburned ears.

    It’s kinda funny, but although teachers must be overpaid and get too much vacation time and only work 6 hours a day, there are not long lines waiting to get into that profession. And everyone who watches TV surey knows how to teach.

  4. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    The No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 (NCLB is a United States Act of Congress concerning the education of children in public schools.

    NCLB was originally proposed by the administration of George W. Bush immediately after he took office.

  5. Fuzzy Thinker (I)

    Fuzzy Thinker (I) GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    Local control of what is taught and how it is administered is a Power-Trip. Obama bowed to the wishes of governors (lots of R, too) and gave back choice to replace standardized tests with a piece of paper (goals) to be posted in the teachers lounge. The Unions won. The Children lost.

  6. pirate227

    pirate227 said, over 3 years ago

    Brought to you by the edjewkashun president, Dubya.

  7. Fuzzy Thinker (I)

    Fuzzy Thinker (I) GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    If Public Schools want to survive the Voucher Threat (competition) they have to change. Magnet schools are great. Regular schools should consider a 2-tier organization: ‘High Standards’ section and ‘Everyone Else’ section. 2 classes taught for core curriculum: ‘No Nonsense’ and ‘Minimum Standard’. Anyone showing inappropriate behavior in ‘No Nonsense’ is sent, by the teacher, to ‘Minimum Standard’. ‘No Nonsense’ students are nationally tested and those that flunk are sent to ‘Minimum Standard’. Children will have to pass an entrance exam to get into ‘No Nonsense’. If necessary, segregate the physical facilities to control discipline and isolate bullies. There may need to be a policeman in the ‘Minimum Standard’ classes to maintain order. This is real class warfare.

  8. Fuzzy Thinker (I)

    Fuzzy Thinker (I) GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    There is hope for young adults who waste their high school years. GED and Community College is there for those that want a second chance. I was a college drop-out. I finished my 2 College degrees at night over 4 years. CLEP really helped. The American Dream: Invest in yourself and reap 10-fold.

  9. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, over 3 years ago

    @fennec: You know I agree with the idea that someone should teach a child how to read on a one on one basis. What happened to mom and dad? I had my kids in my lap every day reading to them from the age of 6 months. Well maybe not every day but if not me them mom. They love the pretty pictures. They love the sound of your voice. They love the cuddle time. ALL of mine began repeating the words with me as soon as they could talk. You have to exercise that muscle if you expect it to be strong; By the time they were in school they could read. And read well. If parents had more “hands on” time with their child’s education we wouldn’t be having this national nightmare. Just a thought.

    Communication skills are the most important skill for a well educated person. It’s a shame technology has replaced the written word.

  10. tcity

    tcity said, over 3 years ago

    Do not develop critical thinking skills in your students = every child left behind.

  11. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, over 3 years ago

    @fennec and eryx: Yes, valid points. However, if you really feel that “someone” should step in and help then have you? You can go to your local school district and volunteer to tutor those with reading problems or math problems, whatever your expertise. Or, you could start a fund for the local school board and spend time raising money for it to provide extra help for those in need. There are programs like this already in action in my area. What about yours?

    And eryx, I know exactly how hard it is to make ends meet. I raised four of my own and a couple of the grands and often worked two jobs – sometimes three – doing it. Time is the only thing your truly own. How do you choose to use yours? It takes maybe 30 minutes to read a book to a child. An hour if you are interactive. I was often up at 3 am to start my day and home by 730 or 8. Don;t talk to me about long hours. But the luxury is in sharing one of them with my children every day. You have to set priorities. Is yours to take a long bath and relax or hug your child and talk to them.

    Stop making excuses and do the right thing for a change.

  12. lfcathy

    lfcathy said, over 3 years ago

    @Bruce4671

    I agree

  13. Fuzzy Thinker (I)

    Fuzzy Thinker (I) GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    “a higher level of parental involvement produce better outcomes. To which I say, “Duh!”… YES. Magnets are Good in the Real World. Since parental involvement is key to obtaining good teachers and maintaining a quality environment, you get back what you put effort into. Money can compensate for a lack of parents- if you spend 4-times what a parent-involved school spends. My 2-tier approach is a response to the REALITY of most schools. Motivated Students/Parents and tutoring can do well. Those children that are not motivated now will have an Example (to remember) of how motivated people behave AND these unmotivated children Will Not be Allowed to Tear Down Others Who Are Trying.

  14. Fuzzy Thinker (I)

    Fuzzy Thinker (I) GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    @Eryx….“I am a college teacher” …I sensed there was something ‘ivory tower’ about you. I have been tapped (from time to time) in the business world to teach fellow employees on company time. Working with motivated students is demanding and a joy. I come from a long line of teachers at all levels.

  15. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, over 3 years ago

    @eryx; See above comments to you and fennec and try to extrapolate. You will find your answer there.

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