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Joe Heller

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  1. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    Only in America can we take a genuine tragedy and fuel it with so much political rhetoric, misinformation and ultimately fear mongering in an effort to appease our sense of duty. Then typically we make grandiose speeches, pass ineffective laws proposed by special interests and ultimately never deal with the real problem facing us.
    Biden is convening a “commission” to study remedies to gun violence. Today the “law enforcement element” are all people from O’s cabinet hastily convened for dramatic photo ops to show how serious they are. Biden is an avowed gun control proponent. Obama choose him because he has good connections in the senate. Real objectivity shown there, that’s for sure.
    Will we really deal with mental health issues and look at the real core of violence in our society and do something about it? Of course not. We’re broke and Obama’s plans for health care don’t include a significant expansion of the mental health system and he’s having enough problems with Obamacare being implemented.
    For all the crime related violence, gangs, drugs, poverty, real education programs needed for job training, there is no money. So the ultimate result will be lots of political cartoons, indignant speeches, a law passed to ban the sale of assault weapons and high cap magazines and improve purchasing controls (which is long overdue).
    I wouldn’t want to bet on the effectiveness of our efforts.
    Here’s a common sense question for those who will land on this post with both feet and accuse me of being a radical conservative (I’m a Libertarian).
    Why is it that when you could buy guns from a catalog these school SHOOTINGS (not explosives re. 1928) were rare to non-existent? Oh yes, that was prohibition that killed more innocent people with the shoot outs by the gangsters. “Tommy guns” were outlawed, but it didn’t stop the gangsters.
    What flamed me out this morning was reading about the citizens of Newtown having to almost forcibly restrict the media because “real people” couldn’t get to funerals for all the media ghouls. Now the cops are restricting them and people have houses and neighborhoods with “no media” signs up to try to get some peace during this painful process..

  2. 1opinion

    1opinion said, over 1 year ago

    The world will most likely end when the sun novas, the human race much sooner.

  3. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @mickey1339

    The guns that most Americans had in the past were shotguns & hunting rifles. There were a number of shootings at schools in the early 20th Century, but the death tolls were much lower. 38 people were killed in Bath, Michigan by a man using dynamite. Since then, we’ve passed strict laws on buying & owning high explosives.

    No law can guarantee that something like this will never happen again, but it makes the odds a lot lower. If the young man in CT only had access to a rifle, he would never have killed so many.

  4. Ruff, release Dr. C and Ahab.

    Ruff, release Dr. C and Ahab. GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    And we should not forget that when those famous words of the constitution and the second amendment were written, firearms were all muzzle loaders. You could hurt someone with a loaded gun, if you were lucky, then you had to run, or spend the next few minutes reloading, if you were lucky. Time to bring those ideas up to modern standards.

  5. Wabbit

    Wabbit GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @Ruff, release Dr. C and Ahab.

    that is a very good point!

  6. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, over 1 year ago

    @mickey1339

    You should do some actual research instead of speaking from your personal beliefs.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/opinion/the-gun-challenge-strict-laws-work.html

  7. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @DrCanuck

    Dr. C, out of curiosity I looked up your profile here. A Phd in “epistemology” and you are teaching in West Virginia! You must constantly feel like the proverbial fish out of water. I studied a bit of philosophy and logic and always found it fascinating. Logic was really helpful when I was learning to program computers.

  8. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @motivemagus

    “You should do some actual research instead of speaking from your personal beliefs.”

    First of all, I don’t consider the most liberal newspaper in the U.S. as a concrete source of credible research. That aside, I have posted numerous times about stricter controls on guns and gun sales. I live in California which has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. If our laws were made federal it would improve the situation greatly. America has always had a very violent culture by comparison to most. Many (I believe most) of our current problems go way beyond issues of gun control, although guns are an issue.

    Studies done when the assault weapon ban expired in 2004 indicated that there was little evidence that assault rifles had more than a negligible effect on gun violence. Our history of dealing with problems often involve a panacea of passing a law and considering that as a solution. I still contend that little will be done on a substantive basis to resolve the greater problems involved.

  9. marvee

    marvee GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    “We have met the enemy and he is us”.

  10. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 1 year ago

    @DrCanuck

    Was Socrates a philosopher or an educator? Is there a difference?

  11. corzak

    corzak said, over 1 year ago

    @mickey1339

    “Studies done when the assault weapon ban expired in 2004 indicated that there was little evidence that assault rifles had more than a negligible effect on gun violence”

    Congress, pushed by the NRA, in the 1990s stripped from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) the necessary funding to conduct firearm research:
    Here.

    Congress, pushed by the NRA, has for 10 years prohibited the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) from releasing crime gun trace data except to law enforcement in connection with a criminal investigation or prosecution:
    Here.

    Congress has refused to appoint an acting Director for the ATF for 6 years. The principal government agency for tracking and regulating the multi-billion dollar gun industry has effectively been leaderless.

    The ‘studies’ you refer to are therefore highly suspect. At best.

  12. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 1 year ago

    @DrCanuck

    Socrates might say that a philosopher who is not a teacher is not a philosopher, and a teacher who is not a philosopher is not a teacher. Or not.

  13. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 1 year ago

    @DrCanuck

    Yeah.

  14. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 1 year ago

    @DrCanuck

    Well, try this. Maybe it works. A philosopher is someone who loves wisdom. Anyone who loves wisdom will want to encourage those around him also to love wisdom. Thus any philosopher is a teacher. (Whoever escapes from the cave will eventually go back to the cave to help others escape.) Anyone who claims to be teacher but does not love wisdom is not going to teach anyone anything; the one who is rightly called a teacher must be a lover of wisdom.

  15. Iwasfromrussia

    Iwasfromrussia GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @mickey1339

    I think I am now depressed, jerk

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