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  1. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 8 months ago

    Hmm, the DUII folks must really be waiting for those self-driving cars. But: neither cars nor booze are deliberately designed to put holes in things, and it would be tough to drive a car through classrooms.


    Another “but”, as John Stewart pointed the over 100 shootings in just one week, it is NOT just a matter of controlling the “mental cases” to get at the real consequences of too ready access to firearms.


    Which, back in 1967, it was interesting that the Army started locking up weapons in the base camp barracks because too many folks were getting shot by our own weapons, and that was in Viet Nam!!

  2. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, 8 months ago

    in the past year at least 194 kids ages 12 and under were killed by guns, in towns and cities across 43 states. And the vast majority of them were killed in homes—127 in their own, and another 30 in the homes of relatives, friends, or neighbors.
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    In 39 cases, children were shot intentionally in their own homes by their parents or adult guardians, accounting for more than a third of the 103 total homicides. And out of 84 total accidental shooting deaths, at least 49 involved kids handling a firearm left unsecured inside a home.
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    Moreover, when it comes to the accidental gun deaths of children, adults are rarely held criminally responsible. In 72 cases in which a child or teen pulled the trigger, killing themselves or other kids, we found only 4 cases in which an adult was convicted. (Charges may still be pending in some cases.) In part that may be because only 14 states and the District of Columbia have strong negligence laws with respect to children and firearms.

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    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/12/children-guns-home-investigation-newtown

  3. hawgowar

    hawgowar said, 8 months ago

    According to FBI stats, you are 100 times more likely to be murdered by a knife than by an “assault weapon”. So I guess we must all turn in our kitchen knives and pocket and hunting knives. You are 48 times more likely to me murdered by hands, fists and feet, so I suppose we must all have our fists and feet amputated. You are 37 times more likely to me murdered with a blunt object such as a hammer, crowbar, pipe or ball bat. I’d say we must all turn in our blunt objects, but since we’ve already had our hands and feet amputated and confiscated by government by then, I guess that’s a moot point.

    Mathematics simply does not care for sympathies or prejudices or politics. Now we have the math out of the way, let’s find out the real reason people kill people. Maybe by fixing our sadly broken mental health system and by locking up career criminals for life (or simply hanging them)? Maybe by having classes in school for marksmanship and safety of firearms as I had when I was a lad? The crime rate in the 50s was miniscule, almost everyone had a gun in the house in our area, kids went hunting at eight or so and there were marksmanship classes in high school. None of us ever shot anyone or even threatened anyone with a gun. We were even allowed to bring cap guns to school to play cops and robbers or the currently politically incorrect cowboys and Indians. (I am half Native American, by the way and always had to be the Indian).

    Take away the mystique of guns, instill proper respect for them in kid’s minds. Get them used to discipline and safety in firearms matters. After all, WWII was won by kids who had marksmanship classes in schools. The Greatest Generation, I’ve heard them called. My father’s generation. They won WWII, sent us to the moon and made all the nice things we take for granted today possible. And they did it without silly, politically-motivated gun laws. Criminals were prosecuted and punished and locked up for life or executed, depending. Laws were fewer and better enforced. I postulate that serious gun problems began shortly after the Gun Control Act of 1968, which has not worked and should be abolished.

    Guns don’t worry me. As a career military man I’m comfortable with guns and understand their rightful uses and their limitations.

    Politicians worry me (as in 1931).

  4. nighthawks

    nighthawks GoComics PRO Member said, 8 months ago

    point, counterpoint…..you guys are never going to sway the opposite viewpoint to your own.
    this bickering is nonsensical time wasting.
    ….but , on the other hand…maybe it’s just fun to rant and troll

  5. Northern Redman

    Northern Redman said, 8 months ago

    @Nantucket19

    Drinking by itself is not a crime assuming you follow age and other restrictions.
    Just like owning a gun is not a crime – this should also follow certain restrictions.

    And they do. And like drinking, sometimes those restrictions are circumvented or abused by irresponsible people. But that problem cannot be solved by adding more restrictions that will impact only those who are responsible.

  6. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 said, 8 months ago

    Guns are dangerous, so why is it some want to make it easier for anyone to get and use them? Now if everyone was military trained, but the criminals and the mentally ill, wouldn’t we be safer?
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    The point of laws are to protect us, and to remove the criminal from our streets. So why is ALEC (a consortium of Right leaning corporations) and the NRA (advertiser and partner with gun manufacturers) so eager to let criminals and the mentally ill have easy access to lethal devices? What is their motive? The profit motive sans morality comes to mind.
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    Maybe they want to use it to cull us. Let the most violent kill some of us to lower our surplus of bodies? Hard to tell since they like having more people than jobs. Gives them a reason to pay poverty wages.

  7. 2011worldchamps

    2011worldchamps said, 8 months ago

    Here we go, blame the guns. The ONLY real thing keeping us from tyranny.

  8. Northern Redman

    Northern Redman said, 8 months ago

    @Night-Gaunt49

    So why is ALEC (a consortium of Right leaning corporations) and the NRA (advertiser and partner with gun manufacturers) so eager to let criminals and the mentally ill have easy access to lethal devices?

    Can you point to a case where that is what they are advocating? I believe it to be just the opposite, and that they try to promote training and gun safety. Nothing would threaten their “profit motive” faster than more public demonstrations of criminals and the mentally ill using guns.

  9. Jon L-ski

    Jon L-ski said, 8 months ago

    People abuse and misuse things all the time. That doesn’t mean that the vast majority of folks who do NOT misuse the items need to pay the consequences for bad behavior which is not theirs. As long as people are held responsible for their own behavior and decisions, we would not have a problem.

  10. pcolli

    pcolli said, 8 months ago

    In the UK, were I to own a gun and wound a burglar, it would result in a greater sentence for me than for the burglar.
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    It seems that all you have to do in this country is to say that you are trying to get your life back together and regardless of your crime, you would get so many hours of community service.

  11. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, 8 months ago

    RPG launchers are not legal??? Isn’t that an infringement on the right to bear arms?

  12. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, 8 months ago

    As long as our society is unwilling or unable to understand the difference between wanting to reduce gun violence and confiscation, this discussion goes nowhere. Simple as that.

  13. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 said, 8 months ago

    @Northern Redman

    When they advocate no laws for long term deep back ground checks, keeping loopholes open to allow anyone with money to get guns they are doing so. That and “Stand Your Ground” laws that promote shoot outs. You tell me why they support those?

  14. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 8 months ago

    ^You obviously haven’t compared the prices of cars and guns lately, and you must REGISTER a car in all 50 states,and have a LICENSE if you plan to drive it. Try driving a car through the hallways and classrooms of a school to mow down kids.

  15. Northern Redman

    Northern Redman said, 8 months ago

    @Night-Gaunt49

    Because you have a right to defend your life, house and property when you are threatened. Don’t think the police will protect you. They will arrive just in time to write a report and call someone to clean up the mess.

    And advocating no laws that impede the right of citizens to lawfully defend themselves is not the same as advocating that criminals and the mentally ill be given guns.

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