Hmm, the DUII folks must really be waiting for those self-driving cars. But: neither cars nor booze are deliberately designed to put holes in things, and it would be tough to drive a car through classrooms.
Another “but”, as John Stewart pointed the over 100 shootings in just one week, it is NOT just a matter of controlling the “mental cases” to get at the real consequences of too ready access to firearms.
Which, back in 1967, it was interesting that the Army started locking up weapons in the base camp barracks because too many folks were getting shot by our own weapons, and that was in Viet Nam!!
According to FBI stats, you are 100 times more likely to be murdered by a knife than by an “assault weapon”. So I guess we must all turn in our kitchen knives and pocket and hunting knives. You are 48 times more likely to me murdered by hands, fists and feet, so I suppose we must all have our fists and feet amputated. You are 37 times more likely to me murdered with a blunt object such as a hammer, crowbar, pipe or ball bat. I’d say we must all turn in our blunt objects, but since we’ve already had our hands and feet amputated and confiscated by government by then, I guess that’s a moot point.
Mathematics simply does not care for sympathies or prejudices or politics. Now we have the math out of the way, let’s find out the real reason people kill people. Maybe by fixing our sadly broken mental health system and by locking up career criminals for life (or simply hanging them)? Maybe by having classes in school for marksmanship and safety of firearms as I had when I was a lad? The crime rate in the 50s was miniscule, almost everyone had a gun in the house in our area, kids went hunting at eight or so and there were marksmanship classes in high school. None of us ever shot anyone or even threatened anyone with a gun. We were even allowed to bring cap guns to school to play cops and robbers or the currently politically incorrect cowboys and Indians. (I am half Native American, by the way and always had to be the Indian).
Take away the mystique of guns, instill proper respect for them in kid’s minds. Get them used to discipline and safety in firearms matters. After all, WWII was won by kids who had marksmanship classes in schools. The Greatest Generation, I’ve heard them called. My father’s generation. They won WWII, sent us to the moon and made all the nice things we take for granted today possible. And they did it without silly, politically-motivated gun laws. Criminals were prosecuted and punished and locked up for life or executed, depending. Laws were fewer and better enforced. I postulate that serious gun problems began shortly after the Gun Control Act of 1968, which has not worked and should be abolished.
Guns don’t worry me. As a career military man I’m comfortable with guns and understand their rightful uses and their limitations.
point, counterpoint…..you guys are never going to sway the opposite viewpoint to your own.this bickering is nonsensical time wasting.….but , on the other hand…maybe it’s just fun to rant and troll
People abuse and misuse things all the time. That doesn’t mean that the vast majority of folks who do NOT misuse the items need to pay the consequences for bad behavior which is not theirs. As long as people are held responsible for their own behavior and decisions, we would not have a problem.
In the UK, were I to own a gun and wound a burglar, it would result in a greater sentence for me than for the burglar..It seems that all you have to do in this country is to say that you are trying to get your life back together and regardless of your crime, you would get so many hours of community service.
As long as our society is unwilling or unable to understand the difference between wanting to reduce gun violence and confiscation, this discussion goes nowhere. Simple as that.
^You obviously haven’t compared the prices of cars and guns lately, and you must REGISTER a car in all 50 states,and have a LICENSE if you plan to drive it. Try driving a car through the hallways and classrooms of a school to mow down kids.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
Hmm, the DUII folks must really be waiting for those self-driving cars. But: neither cars nor booze are deliberately designed to put holes in things, and it would be tough to drive a car through classrooms.
Another “but”, as John Stewart pointed the over 100 shootings in just one week, it is NOT just a matter of controlling the “mental cases” to get at the real consequences of too ready access to firearms.
Which, back in 1967, it was interesting that the Army started locking up weapons in the base camp barracks because too many folks were getting shot by our own weapons, and that was in Viet Nam!!
hawgowar over 10 years ago
According to FBI stats, you are 100 times more likely to be murdered by a knife than by an “assault weapon”. So I guess we must all turn in our kitchen knives and pocket and hunting knives. You are 48 times more likely to me murdered by hands, fists and feet, so I suppose we must all have our fists and feet amputated. You are 37 times more likely to me murdered with a blunt object such as a hammer, crowbar, pipe or ball bat. I’d say we must all turn in our blunt objects, but since we’ve already had our hands and feet amputated and confiscated by government by then, I guess that’s a moot point.
Mathematics simply does not care for sympathies or prejudices or politics. Now we have the math out of the way, let’s find out the real reason people kill people. Maybe by fixing our sadly broken mental health system and by locking up career criminals for life (or simply hanging them)? Maybe by having classes in school for marksmanship and safety of firearms as I had when I was a lad? The crime rate in the 50s was miniscule, almost everyone had a gun in the house in our area, kids went hunting at eight or so and there were marksmanship classes in high school. None of us ever shot anyone or even threatened anyone with a gun. We were even allowed to bring cap guns to school to play cops and robbers or the currently politically incorrect cowboys and Indians. (I am half Native American, by the way and always had to be the Indian).
Take away the mystique of guns, instill proper respect for them in kid’s minds. Get them used to discipline and safety in firearms matters. After all, WWII was won by kids who had marksmanship classes in schools. The Greatest Generation, I’ve heard them called. My father’s generation. They won WWII, sent us to the moon and made all the nice things we take for granted today possible. And they did it without silly, politically-motivated gun laws. Criminals were prosecuted and punished and locked up for life or executed, depending. Laws were fewer and better enforced. I postulate that serious gun problems began shortly after the Gun Control Act of 1968, which has not worked and should be abolished.
Guns don’t worry me. As a career military man I’m comfortable with guns and understand their rightful uses and their limitations.
Politicians worry me (as in 1931).
Nighthawks Premium Member over 10 years ago
point, counterpoint…..you guys are never going to sway the opposite viewpoint to your own.this bickering is nonsensical time wasting.….but , on the other hand…maybe it’s just fun to rant and troll
2011worldchamps over 10 years ago
Here we go, blame the guns. The ONLY real thing keeping us from tyranny.
DarkHorseSki over 10 years ago
People abuse and misuse things all the time. That doesn’t mean that the vast majority of folks who do NOT misuse the items need to pay the consequences for bad behavior which is not theirs. As long as people are held responsible for their own behavior and decisions, we would not have a problem.
pcolli over 10 years ago
In the UK, were I to own a gun and wound a burglar, it would result in a greater sentence for me than for the burglar..It seems that all you have to do in this country is to say that you are trying to get your life back together and regardless of your crime, you would get so many hours of community service.
braindead Premium Member over 10 years ago
RPG launchers are not legal??? Isn’t that an infringement on the right to bear arms?
I Play One On TV over 10 years ago
As long as our society is unwilling or unable to understand the difference between wanting to reduce gun violence and confiscation, this discussion goes nowhere. Simple as that.
Dtroutma over 10 years ago
^You obviously haven’t compared the prices of cars and guns lately, and you must REGISTER a car in all 50 states,and have a LICENSE if you plan to drive it. Try driving a car through the hallways and classrooms of a school to mow down kids.