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  1. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 10 months ago

    It appears some of the equipment at SF wasn’t working. That doesn’t explain why they’d let their airspeed drop so far, but it might have given them an earlier warning?

    Always preferred flying in small aircraft with a yolk (or stick) and pedals in front of me. Flying commercial have had several “incidents” that REALLY made me wish I had controls. From pilots in Georgia getting lost, to others sorta’ forgetting to put the landing gear down, and catching it at just the last second, doing a fly around, and hearing those gear finally go down was NOT reassuring!

  2. gmgodsil

    gmgodsil said, 10 months ago

    Cheap thought here, especially with a loss of lives. No funny at all…or even poignant.

  3. Rx71Wm29

    Rx71Wm29 GoComics PRO Member said, 9 months ago

    Next, we’ll start boarding “sober” pilots. Then only those passengers with the following items in their position: guns, bombs, knives.

  4. seabat

    seabat said, 9 months ago

    And how does one gain experience flying a 777 or any other aircraft for that matter?

  5. Comic Minister

    Comic Minister said, 9 months ago

    Impressive pantsuit Lady!

  6. ReasonsVentriloquist

    ReasonsVentriloquist said, 9 months ago

    Being an experienced pilot is being too stupid to know that you’re going broke.
    They don’t pay pilots enough for them to stick around long enough to be “Experienced”.
    It, ironically enough, is the same thing with bus drivers (which is essentially what Pilots have become) which is much of the reason that so many bus accidents happen going to and from casinos. Bus companies have followed the Randian market such that they have cut away so many expenses (maintenance, driver salaries, etc) so they can “compete” that it is driving the death rate from accidents higher than ever before.

  7. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 9 months ago

    FLYING is pretty safe, it’s the landings that are dangerous!

    Speculation now also focuses, like Sullenberger brought up, that so much is controlled by computers on modern commercial aircraft that too many pilots ARE forgetting how to take over and fly the planes! More hours may actually lead to more “negligence”, and complacency.

  8. bobwinners

    bobwinners GoComics PRO Member said, 9 months ago

    There is ALWAYS one experienced and fully qualified pilot in the cockpit and he/she should be wide awake and watchful when a trainee is at the controls. Clearly, this didn’t happen… recently.

  9. MortyForTyrant

    MortyForTyrant said, 9 months ago

    Well, the ILS seems to have been off, all right, no big thing on a day like this. The question is whether the VASI or PAPI was also off. Coming in from the sea in VFR mode, basically, without any glide slope indicators, would be very tough even for an experienced pilot.


    Someone unfamiliar with the conditions and airport should have aborted and let the check-pilot do it. Safety first! But then there is pride before fall, literally in this case. I also would like to know why there were no stall-warnings, stick rattling, “To low, terrain!” sounds. How can you drop a plane 20 knots below landing speed without all hell breaking loose? Do we need to attach electrodes to the testies of the pilots? Or the engineers, for that matter?


    Oh, and the last time i checked it was “powered decent all the way down” with anything bigger than a Lear-jet. To not know how long it takes the turbines to spool up is a career-ender for a pilot!

  10. ARodney

    ARodney said, 9 months ago


    According to reports I’ve heard, the warning horn and yoke shaking all took place. Why the pilots ignored it… who knows? It’s truly a tragic accident, and seems to have been a result of phenomenal incompetence on the part of both pilots.

  11. Stipple

    Stipple said, 9 months ago

    The only fatal accident in my 16 years of dispatching aircraft came when my assistant allowed two friends to fly together.
    Same as this it was a route check but the crew was being informal and the same thing happened.
    The ground was too close when the emergency was taken seriously and the plane hit the ground hard enough to break one passengers back and kill the PIC who did not even have his shoulder harness hooked up.
    Treating the job casually is most likely the base cause.
    This is why computers are taking over, they always treat flying serious.

  12. MurphyHerself

    MurphyHerself said, 9 months ago

    Pilots here learn to fly in simulators for all sorts of emergencies. Apparently it is a very real experience and would have helped this newbie.

  13. omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    omQ Release the Desaparecidos said, 9 months ago


    “Pilots here learn to fly in simulators for all sorts of emergencies. Apparently it is a very real experience and would have helped this newbie.”

    That’s pretty much standard everywhere.
    I’m going to guess simulator time does not count towards “grand total flying hours” or “total aeronautical experience”, even if it is in a full motion simulator.

  14. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 9 months ago

    The senior pilot, in his first week as a “trainer”, had over 3,000 hours in the 777. (not simulator)

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