Classic Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau

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  1. leftwingpatriot

    leftwingpatriot GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    That’s right, Phred the Terrorist. Not to be confused with his cousin, Phrank the podiatrist.

  2. Dean

    Dean said, over 2 years ago

    I seem to recall in the 70’s it was the French that occupied before we did, but I was only a teen so I could be wrong.

  3. wndrwrthg

    wndrwrthg GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    True, They did. Then there was this little thing at a place called Dien Bien Phu.

  4. Bruno Zeigerts

    Bruno Zeigerts said, over 2 years ago

    @Dean

    Yes, and before them the Japanese. Apparently, one of the blunders after WWII was committed by a British officer. When faced with growing anarchy, he rearmed Japanese prisoners and entrusted them to keep the peace… instead of the Vietminh.

  5. Gweedo - It's legal here !!! -  Murray

    Gweedo - It's legal here !!! - Murray GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Ho Chi Min originally went to the USA for help after the army of Japan left after WW2 but the USA basically ignored him.



    Interesting that you should say that !
    My brother’s father in law did sniper work in Korea during the conflict and had mentioned to me just what you said. The man appeared before whatever person or group, plain dressed and was given short shrift.

  6. pbarnrob

    pbarnrob said, over 2 years ago

    Time to go back and (re-)read The Ugly American(1958), for several kinds of “Ugly”.

    IIRC, Ðiên Biên Phú was in 1953-54, with some American involvement during, and almost immediate escalation afterward.

  7. DavidHuieGreen

    DavidHuieGreen said, over 2 years ago

    “Raze a hamlet in 30 seconds” with everybody in it?
    or does that include getting them to safety first?
    Of course, it’s a poor terrorist who doesn’t kill everybody he can.
    .
    From:
    http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2004/10/global-us-troop-deployment-1950-2003
    .
    “the number of troops sent to Vietnam — from less than 1,000 personnel in 1961 to 537,000 in 1968, then quickly down to zero seven years later”
    .
    One would think the less than a thousand up to 1961 would not have forced too many to learn English.
    Half a million is another matter.
    .
    Not that everybody shouldn’t learn English. I’m a gonna try it sometime, muhself.

  8. LameRandomName

    LameRandomName said, over 2 years ago

    Clark,
    They didn’t ignore him. The members of the political class that ran the US government at that time simply decided that France was a more useful partner in the confrontation with the USSR, and bet that way. The fact that they were wrong is fairly obvious in retrospect but perhaps not so much at the time. Life is like that… You can only see so far ahead, after which everything degenerates to guesswork.
    It is however worth keeping in mind that they had been fighting the Chinese since the Pleistocene era. That’s a very intense sort of persistence. What can you do in any case? People AND nations have the right to make bad choices.

  9. Illegal Seagull

    Illegal Seagull said, over 2 years ago

    Our warm cuddly good natured friends in those care free happy go lucky times, the Viet Cong.

  10. Newshound41

    Newshound41 said, over 2 years ago

    @DavidHuieGreen
    Occupation doesn’t have to mean the military. There is also economic and cultural occupation. Signs for Coke and Chesterfields. American movies and music. After the French left, US became the dominant player in South Vietnam even before the mass influx of troops.

  11. $$i9

    $$i9 said, over 2 years ago

    Ho Chi Minh wrote prez Harry Truman a letter asking for assistance and Truman didn’t give him the courtesy of a reply. Even though the aspirations of Vietnam was what we Americans admire, even though they believed in freedom and independence, their being labeled as “Communist” was the only thing needed to make them our enemies.

  12. grandpa1

    grandpa1 said, over 2 years ago

    Did I miss the news? Did Gary retire and decide to rely on these old strips? Any idea if he’s coming back so I can start enjoying Doonesbury again?

  13. montessoriteacher

    montessoriteacher said, over 2 years ago

    New strips on Sundays. Garry is working on alpha house, a tv show on amazon for now.

  14. Cozmik Cowboy

    Cozmik Cowboy said, over 2 years ago

    Ho actually originally asked for US help in gaining independence after WWI; Wilson, being one of the most vile racists ever to sit in the Oval Office (and that’s a high bar) would have nothing to do with it. After WWII was his 2nd attempt, but Truman was also into maintaining the French in power. When the Vietnamese beat the French, we took over. Truman had put military observers with the ARVN in ‘50; Eisenhower converted them to “Combat Advisers” in ’56 or ’57, training ARVN units & Hmong & Montengard mercenaries & leading them in combat. By the time BD got there, we had, indeed, been occupying for 17 years, and fighting for 15 – with 3 more to go. Remember that the next time CNN calls our current mistake "America’s longest war". Well, that and the fact that pur Phillipine adventure lasted about 100.

  15. Larry

    Larry said, over 2 years ago

    @Dean

    no in the mid 50’s Ike sent advisers over after the French were defeated. we were there till 73.

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