Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau

Doonesbury

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  1. leftwingpatriot

    leftwingpatriot said, over 2 years ago

    Do you have facts to prove Copernicus was wrong?

  2. rayannina

    rayannina said, over 2 years ago

    Gonna be an interesting week …

  3. Three Steps Over Japan

    Three Steps Over Japan said, over 2 years ago

    @leftwingpatriot

    Yes sir, we do indeed. In fact, Copernicus has his own separate database.

  4. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Rush’s research bureau?

  5. capndunzzl

    capndunzzl said, over 2 years ago

    …well I know who the informed one is in that household.

  6. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    And if we don’t have the facts you need on hand, we’ll make some up fresh….

  7. Oak Ridge Boy61

    Oak Ridge Boy61 GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    I bet this is where our idiot state senator got his facts about the origin of AIDS and it not being transmitted by heterosexual relations.

  8. gmartin997

    gmartin997 GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    This is certainly an interesting new direction.

  9. Bill Weinberg

    Bill Weinberg said, over 2 years ago

    Trudeau is still sooo on the money!!!

  10. mesmh

    mesmh said, over 2 years ago

    So man induced change to the earth’s climate is a political issue? If I vote Republican I am a denier & vice versa. Typical.. The climate changes and always has and always will. Man’s impact is not measurable. The deniers are those who agree with Gore, ie. If not for man there would be no change. This should be out of the political agenda.. the financial implications alone demand that. . .

  11. Commentator

    Commentator said, over 2 years ago

    Interesting how TD refers to alarmism skeptics as “climate change deniers.”

  12. Coyoty

    Coyoty GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    @mesmh

    The strip makes no mention of Republicans. You offered that information yourself.

  13. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 2 years ago

    Just a metaphor for the internet.

    Everyone is now an expert on everything. Research is so fragmented that no one has the whole picture, and all authority (i.e. expertise) is to be discounted unless we already like what it says. Techies imagined that the digital age would be an age of knowledge, with so much information readily available. Instead, it is becoming the age of Babel, an age of Ignorance.

    So many of our political debates concern what has happened, what is happening, and (under various scenarios) what will happen. And we can’t begin to agree even about the first two, less alone the last. It isn’t a matter of knowledge vs. ignorance. It’s presumption vs. presumption.

    I am fed up with the blind faith of those who deny the possibility of anthropogenic climate change. I am also fed up with the blind faith of those who think it a proven fact. Those who call themselves skeptics, should be skeptical of both claims. But how often do you hear a pundit or politician claim “nobody knows for sure” and mean it?

    I imagine yourself the third party in a conversation on a cruise ship. “Hundreds of these ship make a total of thousands of cruises every year, and none of them ever sink. So why waste our time with lifeboat drills? Or even waste deck space and spend our hard-earned ticket money on lifeboats?” says one.

    “Because I saw the captain this morning, and I think I smelled alcohol on his breath, and I heard two of the crew members make disparaging comments about the captain’s competence, and the crew seem a little slipshod in general. AND I cast the tea leaves this morning, AND checked my horoscope, AND read the tarot cards and ALL of them indicated imminent disaster. I tell you this ship is going to sink! It is a fact! We’re going to need those lifeboats, and we should have drills!” says the other.

    So what do you say? Who do you agree with? The arrogant presumption of the first is more dangerous than the alarmist kookiness of the second. People who have never had anyone try to break into their house or any of their neighbor’s houses will still keep a loaded gun at bedside. Are they being alarmists? Yet they are sometimes the very ones who sneer at those who would have us take precautions against the possibility of antropogenic climate change.

    Anthropogenic or not, some countries are unquestionably suffering the effects of changing weather patterns, and see attitude of rich countries in relatively unaffected temperate zones as callous and irresponsible.

    But never mind. No matter what happens to the world climate, we will never know what role we played in it. Maybe in a century or two our descendants will know, and shake their heads at our alarmism, or at our denial of the obvious.

  14. Astolat

    Astolat said, over 2 years ago

    @doughfoot

    Did the Costa Concordia get covered in the US?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9062812/Costa-Concordia-Italian-woman-sues-over-miscarriage-after-cruise-ship-disaster.html

    ‘I saw the captain this morning and he said he wanted to wave to a friend on the island as we went past…’

  15. Alabama_Al

    Alabama_Al said, over 2 years ago

    @leftwingpatriot

    leftwingpatriot said,
    Do you have facts to prove Copernicus was wrong?
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    I don’t need to prove Copernicus wrong – you prove him right! In the meantime, Earth remains the center of the universe.

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