All business that prospers at least cost faces competition and works without government regulations. Contrast shoe manufactureres with the Post Office or Amtrak. Health care by the government was tried in Soviet Russia and didn’t work. It won’t work here either.
The government “getting out of the way” is what brought on the recession – letting banks and financial institutions get around regulations. When Citibank is fined multiple times for violations, yet they continue to violate the law, something is really wrong. Doing nothing, along with austerity programs, is what is making the mess worse. When business sits on its profits and will not expand because there is no demand, reducing the demand doesn’t make it better. Learn economics. The top 1% have seen their incomes increase the past 30 years; not so with the rest of us.
I appreciate that there are varied services that one may wish to make public, but most of these were not public at one time. I also understand that you “like having a free school system that consists of well-trained and devoted teachers.” However, well-trained teachers are not free, they are paid for by someone. The question then arises as by whom they are paid, and more fundamentally, by whom their services are managed. I submit that federal management is very wasteful in comparison to local support, so perhaps we should do more to offload things from the feds.
“Why do (expletive) continue to completely ignore the effect of the CRA on the recession?”
Why do you continue to ignore links and posts that continually prove that you don’t know what you’re talking about? Here’s a link to prove that the CRA had nothing to do with this. Now do like you always do and run away from the truth.
Only in the narratives of the propagandists whose hook you have swallowed is this true. If you researched credible sources for more than five minutes, you would know that. See, for example:http://www.dallasfed.org/ca/bcp/2009/bcp0901.cfmThe utter ignorance of so many conservatives is astonishing!And troubling.
Too many of you are right. D and R fight to do things only their way. It was a smaller issue in good times. We have the Second Great Depression, now. When are we going to have a real Third National Party? We have ‘Occupy’ demonstrations. Will we have a riot in D.C. and troops shooting their countrymen, like before? How can US work together? When are the 4 Million earning $200,000 going to pay Income Taxes? When are the 14 Million going to get Retrained to fill empty factories and EXPORT goods?
I appreciate your response, but don’t believe your example supports the notion that a federal clearing house is any more efficient for the dissemination of information than a private one. An example of both is UL vs CE. Most Americans trust the UL label on electronic goods as a representation that a product is safe. UL is completely private and in order for a manufacturer to qualify, their product must be tested. CE (used in the EU), on the other hand, is not private may or may not have legal status, and the manufacturer may attache the CE label themselves by signing a statement of conformity. In this case, I’d prefer the UL label over a CE label on a product, even though most manufacturers are not international and thus many products we purchase have both. Thus, for me, a private sector management of safety is the better choice.
I disagree with your assessment. Yes, there will be some disparity – but we already have disparity with the current system – just look at the school districts in DC or Detroit. I grew up as the son of a teacher and a counselor. They weren’t rich, but they made sure we had a good education, yes it was public, but at a time prior to the US Dept of Education. When my own children were in school, I made sure to move to districts that excellent local schools, even if I didn’t have the money to live in the nice part of town. That was my obligation to my children, not someone else’s. I also dispute your last paragraph, and would, since you make this claim, as for citation. We were, up to about 90 years ago, much more reliant on local funding for everything, and yet the country grew and prospered.
“..275 …liberal groups saying…raised taxes needed to balance the budget when the economy is slow “would risk tipping a faltering economy into recession…” …LIKE NOW???… We have 40 Million people paying ZERO Income Taxes and earn over $50K.
kreole over 12 years ago
The “prez” has tied his socialism agenda with helping the economy. A rotten choice……..
BlueRaven over 12 years ago
And that particular “doctor” got his diploma from Somalia.
Tuner38 over 12 years ago
All business that prospers at least cost faces competition and works without government regulations. Contrast shoe manufactureres with the Post Office or Amtrak. Health care by the government was tried in Soviet Russia and didn’t work. It won’t work here either.
grayhares01 over 12 years ago
Really? So his messages of wealth redistribution, govt controls and the rich being forced to give to the poor are not socialist?
SaltWaterCroc over 12 years ago
The government “getting out of the way” is what brought on the recession – letting banks and financial institutions get around regulations. When Citibank is fined multiple times for violations, yet they continue to violate the law, something is really wrong. Doing nothing, along with austerity programs, is what is making the mess worse. When business sits on its profits and will not expand because there is no demand, reducing the demand doesn’t make it better. Learn economics. The top 1% have seen their incomes increase the past 30 years; not so with the rest of us.
Spyderred over 12 years ago
That’s like asking Typhoid Mary to act as nurse.
curtisls87 over 12 years ago
I appreciate that there are varied services that one may wish to make public, but most of these were not public at one time. I also understand that you “like having a free school system that consists of well-trained and devoted teachers.” However, well-trained teachers are not free, they are paid for by someone. The question then arises as by whom they are paid, and more fundamentally, by whom their services are managed. I submit that federal management is very wasteful in comparison to local support, so perhaps we should do more to offload things from the feds.
d_legendary1 over 12 years ago
“Why do (expletive) continue to completely ignore the effect of the CRA on the recession?”
Why do you continue to ignore links and posts that continually prove that you don’t know what you’re talking about? Here’s a link to prove that the CRA had nothing to do with this. Now do like you always do and run away from the truth.
charliekane over 12 years ago
Only in the narratives of the propagandists whose hook you have swallowed is this true. If you researched credible sources for more than five minutes, you would know that. See, for example:http://www.dallasfed.org/ca/bcp/2009/bcp0901.cfmThe utter ignorance of so many conservatives is astonishing!And troubling.
Fuzzy Thinker Premium Member over 12 years ago
Too many of you are right. D and R fight to do things only their way. It was a smaller issue in good times. We have the Second Great Depression, now. When are we going to have a real Third National Party? We have ‘Occupy’ demonstrations. Will we have a riot in D.C. and troops shooting their countrymen, like before? How can US work together? When are the 4 Million earning $200,000 going to pay Income Taxes? When are the 14 Million going to get Retrained to fill empty factories and EXPORT goods?
pirate227 over 12 years ago
Yes, Dr. Death.
curtisls87 over 12 years ago
I appreciate your response, but don’t believe your example supports the notion that a federal clearing house is any more efficient for the dissemination of information than a private one. An example of both is UL vs CE. Most Americans trust the UL label on electronic goods as a representation that a product is safe. UL is completely private and in order for a manufacturer to qualify, their product must be tested. CE (used in the EU), on the other hand, is not private may or may not have legal status, and the manufacturer may attache the CE label themselves by signing a statement of conformity. In this case, I’d prefer the UL label over a CE label on a product, even though most manufacturers are not international and thus many products we purchase have both. Thus, for me, a private sector management of safety is the better choice.
curtisls87 over 12 years ago
I disagree with your assessment. Yes, there will be some disparity – but we already have disparity with the current system – just look at the school districts in DC or Detroit. I grew up as the son of a teacher and a counselor. They weren’t rich, but they made sure we had a good education, yes it was public, but at a time prior to the US Dept of Education. When my own children were in school, I made sure to move to districts that excellent local schools, even if I didn’t have the money to live in the nice part of town. That was my obligation to my children, not someone else’s. I also dispute your last paragraph, and would, since you make this claim, as for citation. We were, up to about 90 years ago, much more reliant on local funding for everything, and yet the country grew and prospered.
Fuzzy Thinker Premium Member over 12 years ago
“..275 …liberal groups saying…raised taxes needed to balance the budget when the economy is slow “would risk tipping a faltering economy into recession…” …LIKE NOW???… We have 40 Million people paying ZERO Income Taxes and earn over $50K.