The abortion issue isn’t even about abortion. The real point is that if they can take away a right that has been in place for over fifty years, what rights are they coming after next?
Conservatives are the ones who want to dictate total control over private relationships (dictate who you can or can’t marry or even what behavior is allowed behind closed doors), private medical choices (reproductive choices such as abortion, IVF or contraception, medical or recreational marijuana, end of life choices, stem cell therapies, gender-identity care), tell us what books we or our children can have access to, or try to force PRIVATE religion into PUBLIC policy and religious rituals into public meetings or subsidize it with special tax advantages (socialized religion).
One of the main reasons why there are time zones at all probably results from the building of railroads in the 19th century. That sort of rapid travel over long distances necessitated some sort of time standard as a means to help avoid killing off the railroads paying clientele with fatal accidents owing to time of day confusion. It helped commerce in other ways as well; it even made it possible for riders (and shippers, for that matter) to get to the depot on time.
“Conservatism, then, is not a commitment to limited government and liberty – or a wariness of change, a belief in evolutionary reform, or a politics of virtue. These may be byproducts of conservatism, one or more of its historically specific and ever-changing modes of expression. But they are not it animating purpose. Neither is conservatism a makeshift fusion of catalysts, Christians, and warriors, for that fusion is impelled by a more element force – the opposition to the liberation of men and women from the fetters of their superiors, particularly in the private sphere. Such a view might seem miles away from the libertarian defense of the free market, with its celebration of the atomistic autonomous individual. But it is not. When the libertarian looks out upon society, he does not see isolated individuals; he sees private, often hierarchical groups, where a father governs his family and an owner his employees… the conservative position stems from a genuine conviction that a world thus emancipated will be ugly, brutish, base, and dull. It will lack the excellence of a world where the better man commands the worse… Each in his own way subscribes to this typical statement, from the nineteenth century, of the conservative creed: To obey a real superior… is one of the most important of all virtues – a virtue absolutely essential to the attainment of anything great and lasting.” The Righteous Mind by Corey Robin
It’s not about babies. Embryos aren’t babies. Neither are zygotes or fetuses. You know what is a baby? A baby. The standard? Viability. Who manages this? Women and their health care providers. Everyone else should just but out. And anything else on this issue is just religious noise.
FOX “News”, of course, blames the Democrats who have the Governor and AG and many members of the legislature. Naturally, they omit the fact that the Republican-majority legislature blocked two bills repealing the 1864 law.
Diane Lee is exactly correct. Of course, the GOP tries to convince everyone that it’s the Dems who are trying to take away rights and are ruining our country; it’s just the opposite.
Old saying – Stupid is as stupid does. And a hard dollar bet says those hypocrites claim to be god’s people. They are – satan’s, god of this world. Rev 3:16 they make Lord God sick.
brwydave Premium Member about 1 month ago
“East is east and west is west and wrong one I have chose”. “Buttons and bows” might be an appropriate Arizona state song.
Radish the wordsmith about 1 month ago
Aggressively backwards Right wingers want to turn back the clock so they can take your rights away.
[Unnamed Reader - 14b4ce] about 1 month ago
Nogales will soon have no gals.
Pequod about 1 month ago
Just as the radical, broken gop loves the Jim Crow era, it also loves Comstock laws. Shameful.
Diane Lee Premium Member about 1 month ago
The abortion issue isn’t even about abortion. The real point is that if they can take away a right that has been in place for over fifty years, what rights are they coming after next?
Conservatives are the ones who want to dictate total control over private relationships (dictate who you can or can’t marry or even what behavior is allowed behind closed doors), private medical choices (reproductive choices such as abortion, IVF or contraception, medical or recreational marijuana, end of life choices, stem cell therapies, gender-identity care), tell us what books we or our children can have access to, or try to force PRIVATE religion into PUBLIC policy and religious rituals into public meetings or subsidize it with special tax advantages (socialized religion).
A# 466 about 1 month ago
One of the main reasons why there are time zones at all probably results from the building of railroads in the 19th century. That sort of rapid travel over long distances necessitated some sort of time standard as a means to help avoid killing off the railroads paying clientele with fatal accidents owing to time of day confusion. It helped commerce in other ways as well; it even made it possible for riders (and shippers, for that matter) to get to the depot on time.
pamela welch Premium Member about 1 month ago
Well said Lalo, sadly so :-(
librarylady59 about 1 month ago
“Conservatism, then, is not a commitment to limited government and liberty – or a wariness of change, a belief in evolutionary reform, or a politics of virtue. These may be byproducts of conservatism, one or more of its historically specific and ever-changing modes of expression. But they are not it animating purpose. Neither is conservatism a makeshift fusion of catalysts, Christians, and warriors, for that fusion is impelled by a more element force – the opposition to the liberation of men and women from the fetters of their superiors, particularly in the private sphere. Such a view might seem miles away from the libertarian defense of the free market, with its celebration of the atomistic autonomous individual. But it is not. When the libertarian looks out upon society, he does not see isolated individuals; he sees private, often hierarchical groups, where a father governs his family and an owner his employees… the conservative position stems from a genuine conviction that a world thus emancipated will be ugly, brutish, base, and dull. It will lack the excellence of a world where the better man commands the worse… Each in his own way subscribes to this typical statement, from the nineteenth century, of the conservative creed: To obey a real superior… is one of the most important of all virtues – a virtue absolutely essential to the attainment of anything great and lasting.” The Righteous Mind by Corey Robin
Bill Löhr Premium Member about 1 month ago
If they didn’t enforce the law before Row v Wade, they don’t need to enforce it now, unless they want to.
Rich Douglas about 1 month ago
It’s not about babies. Embryos aren’t babies. Neither are zygotes or fetuses. You know what is a baby? A baby. The standard? Viability. Who manages this? Women and their health care providers. Everyone else should just but out. And anything else on this issue is just religious noise.
Zuhl's Wife about 1 month ago
⇧ Ah, but what about the rights of blastocysts?
bike2sac about 1 month ago
It’s that old time religion, it was good enough for the inquisition, it’s good enough for them.
casonia2 about 1 month ago
Spot on, Lalo!
Zuhl's Wife about 1 month ago
FOX “News”, of course, blames the Democrats who have the Governor and AG and many members of the legislature. Naturally, they omit the fact that the Republican-majority legislature blocked two bills repealing the 1864 law.
chazkclines about 1 month ago
Diane Lee is exactly correct. Of course, the GOP tries to convince everyone that it’s the Dems who are trying to take away rights and are ruining our country; it’s just the opposite.
William Bednar Premium Member about 1 month ago
We gave Conservatives the power to change laws, we can take it back. Elections are next November. You know what to do….
CorkLock about 1 month ago
Old saying – Stupid is as stupid does. And a hard dollar bet says those hypocrites claim to be god’s people. They are – satan’s, god of this world. Rev 3:16 they make Lord God sick.
SofaKing about 1 month ago
Upholding a state law from before Arizona WAS a state. I expect Arizona to be bright Blue in November. Excuse me, ROEvember.
nyg16 about 1 month ago
reoubilCONs live in their “wayback machine”
CorkLock about 1 month ago
gop racist rubes follow their fools. Like sled dogs.
Plumb.Bob Premium Member about 1 month ago
Pathetic but maybe this will convince voters to send the MAGA wing packing into the history books of failed political movements.
merrell183 about 1 month ago
“Don’t mess with the woman of America unless you want to get the benefit!” -Joe Biden