General: As gays, you will now have the right to fight and die for the military-industrial complex, but with full honors! Congratulations. Have a medal. Punk: Call it a Christmas gift.
I hope the bill does more than merely repeal DADT.
Pre-DADT they would ask, if you said yes they threw you out. If you lied and said no they also punished you for lying about it.
Repeal isn’t enough, they have to make it legal for gays to serve.
I haven’t read the bill. They probably included that, but it’s never mentioned.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/67-percent-marine-combat-forces-say-putt
“67% Marines in DOD survey said gays in the forces will hurt military effectiveness and 48% said combat units would be less effective in intense combat situations”..
USMC Gen. James Amos opposed the lifting of DADT because of what he had heard from the Marines now serving, about the issue.
But Dems and Libs are politicizing the US Military and Constitutional duties to defend America be trashed!
(many standards keep all sorts of volunteers from serving in the US Military….IQ….Overweight….etc…all acceptable as standards under civil rights)
Wow. It’s rare to see such unmasked bigotry, dtp and dfowensby.
The military is not a democracy. If it were, we wouldn’t have ever allowed Blacks, Jews, or women into the forces. Nor would they do pushups.
This one is a no-brainer, and it’s perfectly clear which position strengthens national security. The military lost 59 Arabic translators due to DADT. Is there any single argument on the other side that is as measurable and devastating as that one single fact?
Got news for you, disgusted: they’re already there. They just can’t admit it.
Also: Those are lower percentages than those who objected to blacks in the Armed Forces on almost precisely the same question. Hmmm…
Amos said that any “distractions” would lead to marines losing limbs.
He forgot to mention, as he spat in the face of one particular soldier, that the first soldier to be seriously injured in the Iraq war is gay.
There are also women marines. If you are so worried about distractions, then you should push to have women removed from the military entirely. Y’know, since the majority of men are straight, and obviously using your bigoted logic they don’t know how to behave professionally.
“Also: Those are lower percentages than those who objected to blacks in the Armed Forces on almost precisely the same question. Hmmm…”
80% of White soldiers didn’t want to serve with black soldiers. According to disgustedtaxpayer, Truman was wrong to force them to.
when you “tolerant liberals” finish cursing me for things I did not say….my post gave the url and issue of a news story….and IMO what the Democrats are doing with legalizing standards that include homosexuals….”politicizing the military”…in a social experiment…..
answer the Q=
your opinion, is God a bigot? (after you pick up a Bible and read one of many scriptures concerning homosexual activity….Romans 1:18 through 32 which clearly states that “gays” practise one of the sexual sins, that doing so will bring God’s Wrath, and that God demands repentance and change from that lifestyle)
Are you also calling the Creator God of the Bible a bigot?
Yes, they call the God of the Bible all sorts of things, disgusted…certainly unenlightened would be the best euphemism they could use…
The toon actually illustrates a great point…it proves that the repeal of DADT had nothing to do with the military, but everything to do with a homosexual agenda. The Lefties loathe the military anyway; they aren’t concerned with the best Armed Forces possible.
We had some Confederate sympathizers who didn.’t want to take orders from a black man, so they assigned us a commander who was blacker than night & they dαmn well took orders. Y’all are just affraid one will get put in charge of designing uniforms & you’ll be back in velvet jacket & ruffled shirt like some mediæval French poofter.
DTP - You inflate yourself mightily to think that the ‘God’ you have created for yourself loves you more than he (it?) loves or hates Jews or Hindi or Siehks or Buhdists or Agnostics or Druids or bears in the forest. God doesn’t care about man’s petty bigotry. (And discriminating against gays is definitely petty.)Your aversion to gays is simply that - your own.
Jesus Christ wasn’t invisible, Quasi, he was there for all to see…
Bluejayz: You really think it is impossible for Christians to oppose homosexuality on the simple grounds that God says it is wrong? That’s really all there is to it, just believing what is written…
DTP, which God? The Old Testament God who authorized the Jews to kill every man, woman, and child in Palestine so they could take the Promised Land for their own? Or Jesus, who hung out with tax collectors and prostitutes and said “love your neighbor as yourself,” without qualification?
And the research shows that much of the content of the Pauline letters was either mixing the response with the letter, or was inserted by early Church fathers with an axe to grind (e.g., the ridiculous comments about women, when St. Paul actually named a woman as one of the apostles!).
The Bible tells us Jesus appeared in the flesh before huge multitudes of people before he died, and a tiny handful afterwards. If he’d reversed that, it might have been more convincing.
Jesus, of course, said nothing about homosexuality, but much about judging the sins of others.
The military-industrial complex throws medals at our troops who die in suicide missions: at least their side claims they get a harem of virgins. Now considering Afghan culture, some of those virgins may ACTUALLY be little boys– but fighting and dying is what it all boils down to.
Actually, I’m wearing a Santa hat as I type this. It’s black shag, and the trim and pom are “Mongolian Smoke” (I made it myself). It’s very cool, and I’ve been wearing it pretty much non-stop for a week.
Either that, or my head is being devoured by an evil Muppet…
none.of.the.above over 13 years ago
I’d never seen a fat death’s-head before. Nice touch.
believecommonsense over 13 years ago
now those are what I would call tree-trunk legs. Oliphant is still a master.
Jason Allen over 13 years ago
A bitter sweet victory for the some 14,000 service men and women who were unfairly drummed out during DADT.
dfowensby over 13 years ago
i see a jump in the number of navy overboard “suicides”, now that you don’t have to catch ‘em in the Act, to discover ‘em.
Nebulous Premium Member over 13 years ago
I hope the bill does more than merely repeal DADT. Pre-DADT they would ask, if you said yes they threw you out. If you lied and said no they also punished you for lying about it.
Repeal isn’t enough, they have to make it legal for gays to serve.
I haven’t read the bill. They probably included that, but it’s never mentioned.
disgustedtaxpayer over 13 years ago
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/67-percent-marine-combat-forces-say-putt “67% Marines in DOD survey said gays in the forces will hurt military effectiveness and 48% said combat units would be less effective in intense combat situations”..
USMC Gen. James Amos opposed the lifting of DADT because of what he had heard from the Marines now serving, about the issue.
But Dems and Libs are politicizing the US Military and Constitutional duties to defend America be trashed! (many standards keep all sorts of volunteers from serving in the US Military….IQ….Overweight….etc…all acceptable as standards under civil rights)
ARodney over 13 years ago
Wow. It’s rare to see such unmasked bigotry, dtp and dfowensby.
The military is not a democracy. If it were, we wouldn’t have ever allowed Blacks, Jews, or women into the forces. Nor would they do pushups.
This one is a no-brainer, and it’s perfectly clear which position strengthens national security. The military lost 59 Arabic translators due to DADT. Is there any single argument on the other side that is as measurable and devastating as that one single fact?
Motivemagus over 13 years ago
Got news for you, disgusted: they’re already there. They just can’t admit it. Also: Those are lower percentages than those who objected to blacks in the Armed Forces on almost precisely the same question. Hmmm…
Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago
Amos said that any “distractions” would lead to marines losing limbs.
He forgot to mention, as he spat in the face of one particular soldier, that the first soldier to be seriously injured in the Iraq war is gay.
There are also women marines. If you are so worried about distractions, then you should push to have women removed from the military entirely. Y’know, since the majority of men are straight, and obviously using your bigoted logic they don’t know how to behave professionally.
“Also: Those are lower percentages than those who objected to blacks in the Armed Forces on almost precisely the same question. Hmmm…”
80% of White soldiers didn’t want to serve with black soldiers. According to disgustedtaxpayer, Truman was wrong to force them to.disgustedtaxpayer over 13 years ago
when you “tolerant liberals” finish cursing me for things I did not say….my post gave the url and issue of a news story….and IMO what the Democrats are doing with legalizing standards that include homosexuals….”politicizing the military”…in a social experiment….. answer the Q= your opinion, is God a bigot? (after you pick up a Bible and read one of many scriptures concerning homosexual activity….Romans 1:18 through 32 which clearly states that “gays” practise one of the sexual sins, that doing so will bring God’s Wrath, and that God demands repentance and change from that lifestyle) Are you also calling the Creator God of the Bible a bigot?
HabaneroBuck over 13 years ago
Yes, they call the God of the Bible all sorts of things, disgusted…certainly unenlightened would be the best euphemism they could use…
The toon actually illustrates a great point…it proves that the repeal of DADT had nothing to do with the military, but everything to do with a homosexual agenda. The Lefties loathe the military anyway; they aren’t concerned with the best Armed Forces possible.
ChukLitl Premium Member over 13 years ago
We had some Confederate sympathizers who didn.’t want to take orders from a black man, so they assigned us a commander who was blacker than night & they dαmn well took orders. Y’all are just affraid one will get put in charge of designing uniforms & you’ll be back in velvet jacket & ruffled shirt like some mediæval French poofter.
Bluejayz over 13 years ago
DTP - You inflate yourself mightily to think that the ‘God’ you have created for yourself loves you more than he (it?) loves or hates Jews or Hindi or Siehks or Buhdists or Agnostics or Druids or bears in the forest. God doesn’t care about man’s petty bigotry. (And discriminating against gays is definitely petty.)Your aversion to gays is simply that - your own.
HabaneroBuck over 13 years ago
Jesus Christ wasn’t invisible, Quasi, he was there for all to see…
Bluejayz: You really think it is impossible for Christians to oppose homosexuality on the simple grounds that God says it is wrong? That’s really all there is to it, just believing what is written…
T Gabriel Premium Member over 13 years ago
Finally disgustedtaxpayer has asked a question that can be answered.
Yes. Now that you put it that way, yes, Creator God of the Bible is a bigot.
That little man who lives on the other side of the sky and people like you who use such a pitiful illusion to hide behind. Yes. Bigots. Both of you.
Motivemagus over 13 years ago
DTP, which God? The Old Testament God who authorized the Jews to kill every man, woman, and child in Palestine so they could take the Promised Land for their own? Or Jesus, who hung out with tax collectors and prostitutes and said “love your neighbor as yourself,” without qualification? And the research shows that much of the content of the Pauline letters was either mixing the response with the letter, or was inserted by early Church fathers with an axe to grind (e.g., the ridiculous comments about women, when St. Paul actually named a woman as one of the apostles!).
fritzoid Premium Member over 13 years ago
The Bible tells us Jesus appeared in the flesh before huge multitudes of people before he died, and a tiny handful afterwards. If he’d reversed that, it might have been more convincing.
Jesus, of course, said nothing about homosexuality, but much about judging the sins of others.
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
The military-industrial complex throws medals at our troops who die in suicide missions: at least their side claims they get a harem of virgins. Now considering Afghan culture, some of those virgins may ACTUALLY be little boys– but fighting and dying is what it all boils down to.
fritzoid Premium Member over 13 years ago
Actually, I’m wearing a Santa hat as I type this. It’s black shag, and the trim and pom are “Mongolian Smoke” (I made it myself). It’s very cool, and I’ve been wearing it pretty much non-stop for a week.
Either that, or my head is being devoured by an evil Muppet…
lindz.coop Premium Member over 13 years ago
Re – the cartoon: Lucky, lucky you!!
riley05 over 13 years ago
And so Digusted runs away, with his tail between his legs….