Federal judge blocks posting the links to info on downloading the 3D printer programs to print handguns and assault-style weapons. Trump checks with the NRA. NRA has no objection to the block. Yeah, because the NRA is only interested in promoting profits for the gun manufacturers who fund them, and they get NOTHING if people can download and print their own guns and bypass commercial gun sales that fund the NRA.
Surprise! Surprise! The NRA domestic terrorist organization and international money laundering crime ring was never about gun rights.
It was ONLY about sacrificing school children on the blood-stained altar of gun manufacturer corporate profits.
The Trump supporters are right on this one but for the wrong reason. Anyone can post anything short of child pornography and drug sales on the internet. It’s called the First Amendment. Besides, there is a practical aspect to this: people will get the blueprints whether it is legal or not. It would be difficult to enforce downloading or otherwise coming into the possession of the file.
What can be made illegal is the possession of these weapons. They are obtained without a background check or even age check, nor are they registered. So each state can make its own laws on what the penalties to enforce not for downloading the file, but for using the file to actually make the weapon.
You have the file on your computer: no crime. You make a weapon using the file: go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
It may be alive but you might not be if you fire one of these tinkertoys.
The pistol version is almost as dangerous to the user as it is to the target. I wouldn’t want to fire it once, much less multiple times. The current polymers used in those printers is far from ideal for this use. That’s why the thing is so thick.
Notice that is has no actual barrel. Just a chamber to hold the cartridge. That’s because it would not be able to withstand the pressure of even a 1/2" or 3/4" barrel. It is the barrel that concentrates and channels the explosive pressure driving the slug. That’s what gives the slug the penetration power downrange. As designed, the cartridge has the same power as if you held it with pliers and tapped the primer.
Not to say it won’t injure or kill, but .380 has a tough enough time penetrating denim when fired from a real gun.
The AR15 lower is just a joke. A very dangerous joke. To start with, you have to use a regular AR upper and bolt assembly. Which means the lower has to match an aluminum lower exactly in order to work. From what I’ve seen the lower can’t survive even a single round fired. Recoil causes it to crack or even shatter.
You guys are all blathering about untraceable firearms being illegal. There is a gaping loophole which explains why these plastic gun plans were handled by the State Dept instead of the DoJ or BATF.
Under federal law you are allowed to “manufacture” firearms for personal use provided you don’t sell them or give them away. No serial number required, no reporting to BATF. Under the law, you can buy an unfinished “blank”, complete the finish work on your own and have no requirement to register. The blank is the “lower” housing for a rifle or the lower frame for a pistol.
Several manufactures have used this law to create 80% finished blanks for sale to the public. Since they are not “finished”, there is no requirement for tracking, tracing or any other restrictions on selling them. The recipient uses a vice, a standard home type electric drill and some special bits to finish the lower, then purchases unregulated parts to complete the weapon.
You can build your own .45, Glock. AR15, AK47, MP5, etc.
DD Wiz Premium Member almost 6 years ago
Federal judge blocks posting the links to info on downloading the 3D printer programs to print handguns and assault-style weapons. Trump checks with the NRA. NRA has no objection to the block. Yeah, because the NRA is only interested in promoting profits for the gun manufacturers who fund them, and they get NOTHING if people can download and print their own guns and bypass commercial gun sales that fund the NRA.
Surprise! Surprise! The NRA domestic terrorist organization and international money laundering crime ring was never about gun rights.
It was ONLY about sacrificing school children on the blood-stained altar of gun manufacturer corporate profits.
DanFlak almost 6 years ago
The Trump supporters are right on this one but for the wrong reason. Anyone can post anything short of child pornography and drug sales on the internet. It’s called the First Amendment. Besides, there is a practical aspect to this: people will get the blueprints whether it is legal or not. It would be difficult to enforce downloading or otherwise coming into the possession of the file.
What can be made illegal is the possession of these weapons. They are obtained without a background check or even age check, nor are they registered. So each state can make its own laws on what the penalties to enforce not for downloading the file, but for using the file to actually make the weapon.
You have the file on your computer: no crime. You make a weapon using the file: go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
magicwalnut Premium Member almost 6 years ago
This is the first sensible comment on this subject that I have seen. DANFLAK, have you considered running for congress?
JHayes almost 6 years ago
IT’s alive…… Now shoot it with that untraceable gun!
Andylit Premium Member almost 6 years ago
It may be alive but you might not be if you fire one of these tinkertoys.
The pistol version is almost as dangerous to the user as it is to the target. I wouldn’t want to fire it once, much less multiple times. The current polymers used in those printers is far from ideal for this use. That’s why the thing is so thick.
Notice that is has no actual barrel. Just a chamber to hold the cartridge. That’s because it would not be able to withstand the pressure of even a 1/2" or 3/4" barrel. It is the barrel that concentrates and channels the explosive pressure driving the slug. That’s what gives the slug the penetration power downrange. As designed, the cartridge has the same power as if you held it with pliers and tapped the primer.
Not to say it won’t injure or kill, but .380 has a tough enough time penetrating denim when fired from a real gun.
The AR15 lower is just a joke. A very dangerous joke. To start with, you have to use a regular AR upper and bolt assembly. Which means the lower has to match an aluminum lower exactly in order to work. From what I’ve seen the lower can’t survive even a single round fired. Recoil causes it to crack or even shatter.
These things are positively Darwinian.
Andylit Premium Member almost 6 years ago
You guys are all blathering about untraceable firearms being illegal. There is a gaping loophole which explains why these plastic gun plans were handled by the State Dept instead of the DoJ or BATF.
Under federal law you are allowed to “manufacture” firearms for personal use provided you don’t sell them or give them away. No serial number required, no reporting to BATF. Under the law, you can buy an unfinished “blank”, complete the finish work on your own and have no requirement to register. The blank is the “lower” housing for a rifle or the lower frame for a pistol.
Several manufactures have used this law to create 80% finished blanks for sale to the public. Since they are not “finished”, there is no requirement for tracking, tracing or any other restrictions on selling them. The recipient uses a vice, a standard home type electric drill and some special bits to finish the lower, then purchases unregulated parts to complete the weapon.
You can build your own .45, Glock. AR15, AK47, MP5, etc.
https://www.ghostguns.com/