- I know of no one who is protesting the Chicago Blackhawks over their logo. It shows a profile of a Blackhawk in ceremonial paint. I recall no outrage from actual Blackhawks over it. What’s the problem?- Florida State University’s logo was FULLY APPROVED OF by the Seminole Nation. FSU is on very good terms with the Seminole Nation and their logo is quite respectful. A member of the tribe dressed in ceremonial garb on a horse appears at every home game. What’s the problem?- The Kansas City Chiefs CHANGED their logo over FIFTY YEARS AGO. Go and look for their original logo; it was fairly racist. Their current one draws no ire from any Indian group or tribe.- The Atlanta Braves got rid of the Indian head many years ago. They only retain the Tomahawk logo and the name is NOT remotely derogatory. What’s the problem?….Alright now, the Washington Redskins NAME is offensive. Utterly offensive and racist. That said, the LOGO is just fine. I hear no really negative comments about it from Indian groups/tribes. Name need to be changed.The Cleveland Indians NAME is OK. It’s generic and does acknowledge the existence of Indians. The “Chief Wahoo” logo is a racist caricature and I am glad they’ve finally realized this fact and make the decision to change it.
This is long overdue. A small college in Iowa, in a town named Indianola, had the good sense to change from the Simpson Indians to the Simpson Storm. They keep winning at football and wrestling, the academic programs continue to be superior, they have an amazing music program that produces operas on a regular basis—in short, the sky did not fall. And so finally, at Simpson College, Native Americans are considered people, and not mascots.
I dislike the term native American basically because it is so long and not specific. A person born in a place is a native there. Since I was born in America I am a Native American, but not the kind we are talking about. I prefer First American. Shorter and more accurate.
Oh, and I forgot, and it was so funny at the time, Stanford changed it’s name to Cardinal, as in the color. The students had voted overwhelmingly (90%) to honor the founder of the university by voting for Robber Barons. “Big Tree” came in second.
There’s a good short story about Trump buying the Washington Redskins…lots of stuff about Native American (Indian) names of sports teams…it’s in Fractured Fairy Tales: Political Monkey Business. I got it on amazon a year ago.
@HFERGUS – as I understand it, most Native Americans actually prefer to be known by their tribe. “Native Americans” is kind of like “Europeans” or “Asians” — it lumps a lot of people together who would just as well not be. It probably says something about us that cultures as diverse as the Hopi, the Sioux, the Apache, the Iroquois, Cherokee, and Seminoles are all lumped together for the convenience of those who are European-Americans…
KenseidenXL about 6 years ago
OK, I have a MAJOR beef with this one.
- I know of no one who is protesting the Chicago Blackhawks over their logo. It shows a profile of a Blackhawk in ceremonial paint. I recall no outrage from actual Blackhawks over it. What’s the problem?- Florida State University’s logo was FULLY APPROVED OF by the Seminole Nation. FSU is on very good terms with the Seminole Nation and their logo is quite respectful. A member of the tribe dressed in ceremonial garb on a horse appears at every home game. What’s the problem?- The Kansas City Chiefs CHANGED their logo over FIFTY YEARS AGO. Go and look for their original logo; it was fairly racist. Their current one draws no ire from any Indian group or tribe.- The Atlanta Braves got rid of the Indian head many years ago. They only retain the Tomahawk logo and the name is NOT remotely derogatory. What’s the problem?….Alright now, the Washington Redskins NAME is offensive. Utterly offensive and racist. That said, the LOGO is just fine. I hear no really negative comments about it from Indian groups/tribes. Name need to be changed.The Cleveland Indians NAME is OK. It’s generic and does acknowledge the existence of Indians. The “Chief Wahoo” logo is a racist caricature and I am glad they’ve finally realized this fact and make the decision to change it.Ontman about 6 years ago
The Raj ended over 70 years ago. Who’s next?
RAGs about 6 years ago
Obviously, if we’ve been doing it for years, it’s not ethnically biased, it’s TRADITION.
thebashfulone about 6 years ago
This is long overdue. A small college in Iowa, in a town named Indianola, had the good sense to change from the Simpson Indians to the Simpson Storm. They keep winning at football and wrestling, the academic programs continue to be superior, they have an amazing music program that produces operas on a regular basis—in short, the sky did not fall. And so finally, at Simpson College, Native Americans are considered people, and not mascots.
hfergus Premium Member about 6 years ago
I dislike the term native American basically because it is so long and not specific. A person born in a place is a native there. Since I was born in America I am a Native American, but not the kind we are talking about. I prefer First American. Shorter and more accurate.
Kip W about 6 years ago
Gimme a horse, a great big horse
Gimme a buckaroo, and let me
Wahoo, wahoo,
Wa-Hoo!
Teto85 Premium Member about 6 years ago
Good thing the Philadelphia-San Francisco-Golden State Warriors changed their logo many years ago.
Teto85 Premium Member about 6 years ago
Oh, and I forgot, and it was so funny at the time, Stanford changed it’s name to Cardinal, as in the color. The students had voted overwhelmingly (90%) to honor the founder of the university by voting for Robber Barons. “Big Tree” came in second.
DonaldH1 about 6 years ago
There’s a good short story about Trump buying the Washington Redskins…lots of stuff about Native American (Indian) names of sports teams…it’s in Fractured Fairy Tales: Political Monkey Business. I got it on amazon a year ago.
Motivemagus about 6 years ago
@HFERGUS – as I understand it, most Native Americans actually prefer to be known by their tribe. “Native Americans” is kind of like “Europeans” or “Asians” — it lumps a lot of people together who would just as well not be. It probably says something about us that cultures as diverse as the Hopi, the Sioux, the Apache, the Iroquois, Cherokee, and Seminoles are all lumped together for the convenience of those who are European-Americans…
dipierro Premium Member about 6 years ago
I notice that the Chiefs also were represented at the table in the cartoon, but with nothing to draw the viewer’s attention. Odd.
dipierro Premium Member about 6 years ago
I notice that the Chiefs also were represented at the table in the cartoon, but with nothing to draw the viewer’s attention. Odd.