FYI:" …The “Fast and Furious” operation started in October 2009, about 10 months into Obama’s first term. Under the program, federal agents based in Arizona allowed straw buyers to buy guns in the United States and cross into Mexico so the weapons could be traced to, in theory, high-level drug cartel members.
The idea backfired when two guns that the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives had lost track of were found at the crime scene of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry, who was killed Dec. 14, 2010.
Investigations launched by Congress and the Justice Department in the wake of Terry’s death found many flaws with the “gun-walking” program designed by ATF’s Phoenix Field Division to go after cartels.
So Fast and Furious doesn’t date back to Bush.
But the idea of gun-walking in general does trace back to the previous administration.
The Justice Department’s inspector general noted that the gun-walking strategy originated in the ATF’s Phoenix office under a 2006 program named “Operation Wide Receiver.”
Operation Wide Receiver unfolded between March 2006 and December 2007 with ATF agents based in Tucson. The agents knew firearms were being purchased by straw buyers for illegal use in Mexico but did not go after the weapons. Ultimately, the inspector general’s report found that the agents did not make any arrests as a result of the program and seized fewer than 100 of about 400 firearms that were purchased.
Harman said via a spokesman, “The gun-walking program began in 2006 under the Bush Administration. It had a different name, but it was a similar program.”… "
Track it back to the source, Bush, but hey, hate to say it, but I’m really more concerned about the guns being sold illegally NORTH OF THE BORDER!. Fast to the furious goes for gun sales, but stalled at the door for voting rights. Yep, elephantiasis is a painful swelling disease, when it hits the head, it’s Trumpitis.
This old smear? Don’t we have anything newer?Remember when the government wanted to arm moderate rebels in Syria? And the right hollered at the top of their lungs, “You’ll be arming the next al-Quaida!”Now they’re hollering, “Why didn’t you arm the moderate rebels when you had a chance?”
Amen, True, Northern Redman is correct.I am always amazed at how many posters show no evidence of having tried to find out the truth before they post such errors about mass murderers using “war weapons.”-It is easy to learn about the fact that Political Agenda, anti-2nd Amendment people are using lies about gun-types to stir up voters to join in a False Campaign to prevent sale and use of legal, non-assault weapons! I support the Constitutional #2 in importance Right to own and carry guns, even though I myself have no need of one. But I feel assurance that if I did, I have the right to buy and get instruction on gun safety, for defensive purposes. I’m not the hunter of animals type person. -I also support the excellent NRA organization for law-abiding citizens to promote safe and legal ownership. I see that Orlando’s Gun-Free Zone chosen for mass murder of Americans at a gay nightclub has triggered mass purchase of guns for defense by people who claim to be gay….(Ironic).- I believe every law-abiding person has the right of self-defense. I oppose all these anti-gun-rights people demanding the early steps to a State confiscation and disarming of citizens. The Founders knew the dangers of government power and how changeable its generations of leaders can be, to turn from ideals of Liberty and “We the People” Rights on what the government can and cannot legally do!-p.s. I don’t believe much that our president says. I especially dislike his choosing “ISIL” instead of “ISIS” because the “L” stands for the Levant, an ancient name for the entire Mideast, that includes Israel. I oppose anyone or any organization trying to take Israeli lands away from the Jews, or even claiming Israel’s land that God promised to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their blood kin, in an eternal promise.-God is the re-gatherer of Jews from all parts of this earth, for His plan to restore the Davidic Kingdom for 1,000 years under the returned Messiah, Jesus, who is God born into the human race to make atonement for sin so that salvation can be offered to every human, from the death penalty for unforgiven sins. Israel is to be Messiah’s capitol of earth in the Kingdom of Heaven, where God himself will restrain all evil, for true Peace.
Obama follows W’s policies and you think that is an excuse for arming terrorists because you can’t discuss ration gun control? This claim isn’t even true, Obama neverThe Senate GOP sells guns to ISIS (for the PC Republicans) by protecting suspected terrorists ability to buy guns.
F&F was one botched attempt to stop the flow of guns to Mexico. It was botched in part because ATF didn’t have nearly the resources to do its job, given the free flow of guns in the border area, and the limitations placed on it by Congress. Its ability to audit gun shop records is strictly limited. The gun shops do quite well, thank you, supplying both the drug gangs and the anti-immigrant gun worshippers. And the gun manufacturers do quite well supplying both of them plus the law enforcement authorities.
Theodore E. Lind Premium Member almost 8 years ago
What a stupid cartoon.
superposition almost 8 years ago
FYI:" …The “Fast and Furious” operation started in October 2009, about 10 months into Obama’s first term. Under the program, federal agents based in Arizona allowed straw buyers to buy guns in the United States and cross into Mexico so the weapons could be traced to, in theory, high-level drug cartel members.
The idea backfired when two guns that the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives had lost track of were found at the crime scene of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry, who was killed Dec. 14, 2010.
Investigations launched by Congress and the Justice Department in the wake of Terry’s death found many flaws with the “gun-walking” program designed by ATF’s Phoenix Field Division to go after cartels.
So Fast and Furious doesn’t date back to Bush.
But the idea of gun-walking in general does trace back to the previous administration.
The Justice Department’s inspector general noted that the gun-walking strategy originated in the ATF’s Phoenix office under a 2006 program named “Operation Wide Receiver.”
Operation Wide Receiver unfolded between March 2006 and December 2007 with ATF agents based in Tucson. The agents knew firearms were being purchased by straw buyers for illegal use in Mexico but did not go after the weapons. Ultimately, the inspector general’s report found that the agents did not make any arrests as a result of the program and seized fewer than 100 of about 400 firearms that were purchased.
Harman said via a spokesman, “The gun-walking program began in 2006 under the Bush Administration. It had a different name, but it was a similar program.”… "
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/sep/30/jane-harman/jane-harman-incorrectly-claims-fast-and-furious-gu/
Happy Two Shoes almost 8 years ago
Fast and Furious was a Bush admin hold over.Republicons keep military grade weapons legal so any domestic terrorist will have ready made tools.
Dtroutma almost 8 years ago
Track it back to the source, Bush, but hey, hate to say it, but I’m really more concerned about the guns being sold illegally NORTH OF THE BORDER!. Fast to the furious goes for gun sales, but stalled at the door for voting rights. Yep, elephantiasis is a painful swelling disease, when it hits the head, it’s Trumpitis.
kaffekup almost 8 years ago
This old smear? Don’t we have anything newer?Remember when the government wanted to arm moderate rebels in Syria? And the right hollered at the top of their lungs, “You’ll be arming the next al-Quaida!”Now they’re hollering, “Why didn’t you arm the moderate rebels when you had a chance?”
kline0800 almost 8 years ago
Amen, True, Northern Redman is correct.I am always amazed at how many posters show no evidence of having tried to find out the truth before they post such errors about mass murderers using “war weapons.”-It is easy to learn about the fact that Political Agenda, anti-2nd Amendment people are using lies about gun-types to stir up voters to join in a False Campaign to prevent sale and use of legal, non-assault weapons! I support the Constitutional #2 in importance Right to own and carry guns, even though I myself have no need of one. But I feel assurance that if I did, I have the right to buy and get instruction on gun safety, for defensive purposes. I’m not the hunter of animals type person. -I also support the excellent NRA organization for law-abiding citizens to promote safe and legal ownership. I see that Orlando’s Gun-Free Zone chosen for mass murder of Americans at a gay nightclub has triggered mass purchase of guns for defense by people who claim to be gay….(Ironic).- I believe every law-abiding person has the right of self-defense. I oppose all these anti-gun-rights people demanding the early steps to a State confiscation and disarming of citizens. The Founders knew the dangers of government power and how changeable its generations of leaders can be, to turn from ideals of Liberty and “We the People” Rights on what the government can and cannot legally do!-p.s. I don’t believe much that our president says. I especially dislike his choosing “ISIL” instead of “ISIS” because the “L” stands for the Levant, an ancient name for the entire Mideast, that includes Israel. I oppose anyone or any organization trying to take Israeli lands away from the Jews, or even claiming Israel’s land that God promised to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their blood kin, in an eternal promise.-God is the re-gatherer of Jews from all parts of this earth, for His plan to restore the Davidic Kingdom for 1,000 years under the returned Messiah, Jesus, who is God born into the human race to make atonement for sin so that salvation can be offered to every human, from the death penalty for unforgiven sins. Israel is to be Messiah’s capitol of earth in the Kingdom of Heaven, where God himself will restrain all evil, for true Peace.
doverdan almost 8 years ago
This does not follow any logic..What Gun Shoppe could this be?.Who is paying this guy to draw confusing things like this?Why?
Mr. Blawt almost 8 years ago
Obama follows W’s policies and you think that is an excuse for arming terrorists because you can’t discuss ration gun control? This claim isn’t even true, Obama neverThe Senate GOP sells guns to ISIS (for the PC Republicans) by protecting suspected terrorists ability to buy guns.
MR P almost 8 years ago
http://www.assaultweapon.info
oneoldhat almost 8 years ago
dear dtroutma i traced f & f to the beginning and it was in bho reign [ i guess history is not your strong point]
oneoldhat almost 8 years ago
dear dtroutma i traced f & f to the beginning and it was in bho reign [ i guess history is not your strong point]
pam Miner almost 8 years ago
I have never seen such an ugly portrayal of Obama. It is disgusting to me. He has done some really bad stuff, but this is a really bad cartoon.
Michael Peterson Premium Member almost 8 years ago
Building on a nonsensical “scandal” that, of course, the White House had nothing to do with anyway.
dipierro Premium Member almost 8 years ago
F&F was one botched attempt to stop the flow of guns to Mexico. It was botched in part because ATF didn’t have nearly the resources to do its job, given the free flow of guns in the border area, and the limitations placed on it by Congress. Its ability to audit gun shop records is strictly limited. The gun shops do quite well, thank you, supplying both the drug gangs and the anti-immigrant gun worshippers. And the gun manufacturers do quite well supplying both of them plus the law enforcement authorities.
Mr. Bok’s cartoon is dishonest, to say the least.
oneoldhat almost 8 years ago
1941gko gets an F in history
Buzz the Bear almost 8 years ago
Oh yeah….because RONALD REAGUNS..selling guns to IRAN to finance the Contra rebels in Nicaragua was so fu*king ethical….
MORE TYPICAL REPUBLICAN HYPOCRISY!