Lisa Benson for November 10, 2015

Folks do realize that a week ago, Trans Canada asked the administration to hold off for a year on the application, as oil prices have crashed below break even, and another route has long been not only better, but cheaper, right?

5 reasons Why the Keystone Pipeline is Bad for the Economy: http://labor4sustainability.org/articles/5-reasons-why-the-keystone-pipeline-is-bad-for-the-economy/

If jobs were truly a goal we would have been working on infrastructure for the last several years.

It may be a feel-good victory for the environmentalists, but it’s not reality. The oil will get to market anyway but by a less environmentally friendly way. The market will be less U.S. and more Eastern Canada to offset east coast imports and Asia via western pipelines. The U.S. will continue to import heavy oil such as from the bitumen deposits of Venezuela, except at higher transportation costs and from a less stable source. Even the State Department admitted denying the KEL will not change carbon emissions. .The Canadian oil sands are not even the worst polluters. Thirteen fields in California are dirtier than Canadian bitumen, with the Placerita field outside L.A. being about twice as dirty; oil from the Alaska North Slope is a higher polluter than Canadian bitumen. U.S. coal fired electrical generation is a far worse polluter. The U.S. environmentalists should walk-the-walk and fight carbon emissions at home. But, then that might inconvenience their own cozy lives in a real way. .One wonders why the U.S. would want to shut themselves off from the 3rd largest deposit on the planet when oil will continue to be vital for production of food, transportation, and heat for the foreseeable future. In fact, if the environmentalists fully had their way, the privations would kill off about half (a guess) the world’s 7 billion population. That doesn’t seem friendly to me.

And there you see it – the one job that will be created from the Keystone Pipeline, well minus all the ones that will be needed to clean up the environmental mess it would have left.

There’s a lot more jobs in train derailment cleanup any way. Trains or pipelines is the real decision

If the GOP wanted to create jobs, it’s very easy to do. Just spend money building things we actually need as a country. The Keystone pipeline was a terrible idea. Anything that makes fossil fuels even incrementally more expensive is good for the planet, and there will be no action from the do-nothing nihilists in the GOP house.

It was not well reasoned. After over seven years and numerous studies that said the KXL would not change carbon emissions, Obama made a purely political decision to fulfill a promise to his base. And he chose a time of historically low prices so as to minimize the backlash.

KXL was never intended to create energy independence for us, but for the Koch brothers. It was going to transport their Canadian oil to the coast. We would get to refine it (minimal jobs) and they would sell it to the highest bidder (China) and then put it on polluting oil tankers to go around the world. Not worth helping them do that.

Damn good thing, too. Not worth the danger. Thousands of jobs? For a brief time, then maybe 200 or so, and the dirtiest, most polluting oil around.

So other than to bash Obama, did the Republicans not want it or did they want it? It’s hard to gauge from the comments because all the Repubs want to do is slander, but none of them are actually saying if they wanted it or not.

Mr. wmconelly, if road and bridge improvements are necessary, then the states had better get after those repairs. Such repairs REMOVE money from a stagnant economy and provide little in return. They only change who spends the dollars with providing ANY production gains. The pipeline in private sector money that increases productivity.

I don’t care enough about this issue. People are talking about job creation there’s a lot of speculation but where are the actual cite able facts that would prove who would be hired for these jobs and how many jobs it would create and for how long. Also, is job creation worth the environmental problems that this would cause?

There are already at least eight refineries further north, already served by existing pipelines, that could process the tar sands with minor modifications, but they aren’t able to export the product to China from there instead of keeping it in the U.S.. The folks around those refineries are also not sold on handling all the waste products from processing tar sands.

Keystone simply harms the U.S. jobs market and environment more than it helps. And TransCanada already wants out because the program is way below cost effective now that oil prices have dropped.

This is just a distraction, so we won’t notice this:

Once again Benson fails to hold the Republicans to the same standard to which she holds the president. This isn’t about jobs, this is just another tired jab at Obama.

“How much will Obama’s left wing friends make by killing Keystone? Owners of rail companies, maybe?”So far, Buffet hasn’t made a profit on his railroad investments & the lack of demand for that oil makes it unlikely he will see it soon. He is supposed to be looking at expanding his solar holding, though

“Where do you think plastic comes from?”Stupid suburban kids who think it’s ok to throw their garbage on my lawn when they move to the city?Which begs the serious question: Where does all that plastic go? More landfills that won’t be built near wealthy, Republican enclaves.

Here’s the Headline that tells us all we should Need to know:.America’s Oil And Gas Industry Averaged At Least 20 Spills Per Day In 2013.

bho killed keystone to protect buffet most profitable investments [ bnsf] //Koch bros make $$$ regardless of who ship the tar sands [ keystone, or Enbridge or bnsf]

@KaffeeKupThanks for reminding us that Koch Industries is one of the biggest investors in the Canadian tar sands.

@superpositionSadly, the RWNJs won’t acknowledge your corporate profits/stagnant wages graph. Further, they don’t grasp the importance of a healthy infrastructure { and the role government plays in promoting same }.