If the country to the South of the USA wasn’t so broke, most of those people wouldn’t bother to come looking for ways to feed their families.
Reminds me of The Grapes of Wrath; they’re our new Okies. (Before you flame me for that, my Dad graduated in Osage, found himself in Long Beach in ‘34, joined the Marines and went to China, etc.)
The senator does have a good point, and the $8000 government stimulation has expired. Come to think of it, the senator has also dodged this issue, should the government spend any more tax money trying to jump start the economey? He does not say.
looked like that old fat rat Ted Kennedy. Bet he is looking up from where he is at wishing it would cool down some. Well, at least he is now a good democrat…bet he still votes.
“An invitation was issued for people who would take an oath of allegiance to Mexico and convert to Catholicism, the state religion. Thousands of Americans took up the offer and moved, often with slaves, to the Mexican province of Texas. Soon however, many of the new “Texicans” or “Texians” were unhappy with the way the government in Mexico City tried to run the province. In 1835, Texas revolted, and after several bloody battles, the Mexican President, Santa Anna, was forced to sign the Treaty of Velasco in 1836.”
It appears to me that they were Mexican citizens who stole their own country and later joined the United States.
On February 2, 1848, The Treaty of Guadeloupe Hidalgo was signed, later to be ratified by BOTH the U.S. and Mexican Congresses. The treaty called for the annexation of the northern portions of Mexico to the United States. In return, THE U.S. AGREED TO PAY $15 MILLION TO MEXICO as compensation for the seized territory.
This has been, for the most part, an extremely enlighting and intelligent discussion of a difficult question facing us all. I tend to agree that the analogy of the 1930’s Oklahoma refugees, who didn’t HAVE to be from OK to get the nickname, is a good one compared to the illegals from Mexico & lots of other countries on the globe. If there were no job opportunities here and if all patriotic employers, who love America, would only hire qualified, certified, legal Americans, then the Mexicans would be going south of the Rio Grande in a hurry & would have neveer been here in the first place. I hope this humble observation is welcomed into the conversation.
15 million in 1848 dollars is just a tad more than that now. What with the minor improvements and all. We can always return it to the state it was in back then and then give it back.
BOUNDARY, n. In political geography, an imaginary line
between two nations, separating the imaginary rights of
one from the imaginary rights of the other.
–Ambrose Bierce
Yukoner almost 14 years ago
“Boarders” the new term for illegals?
mfields203 almost 14 years ago
Smarter than my senators
GROG Premium Member almost 14 years ago
Sad
pbarnrob almost 14 years ago
If the country to the South of the USA wasn’t so broke, most of those people wouldn’t bother to come looking for ways to feed their families.
Reminds me of The Grapes of Wrath; they’re our new Okies. (Before you flame me for that, my Dad graduated in Osage, found himself in Long Beach in ‘34, joined the Marines and went to China, etc.)
FresnoDude almost 14 years ago
The senator does have a good point, and the $8000 government stimulation has expired. Come to think of it, the senator has also dodged this issue, should the government spend any more tax money trying to jump start the economey? He does not say.
NE1956 almost 14 years ago
ray32648 almost 14 years ago
@FresnoDude - As long as we’re up against a zero interest barrier, yes.
@TrapperJohn - it was primarily Bush’s redistribution of wealth and Clinton’s deregulation that’s causing the current problems, not Obama’s response.
johnmcfarm almost 14 years ago
looked like that old fat rat Ted Kennedy. Bet he is looking up from where he is at wishing it would cool down some. Well, at least he is now a good democrat…bet he still votes.
benbrilling almost 14 years ago
What’s that emblem on the lectern supposed to be?
cateymoore Premium Member almost 14 years ago
The emblem is the slippery soap bar Cosmo mentioned.
CogentModality almost 14 years ago
“An invitation was issued for people who would take an oath of allegiance to Mexico and convert to Catholicism, the state religion. Thousands of Americans took up the offer and moved, often with slaves, to the Mexican province of Texas. Soon however, many of the new “Texicans” or “Texians” were unhappy with the way the government in Mexico City tried to run the province. In 1835, Texas revolted, and after several bloody battles, the Mexican President, Santa Anna, was forced to sign the Treaty of Velasco in 1836.”
It appears to me that they were Mexican citizens who stole their own country and later joined the United States.
CogentModality almost 14 years ago
On February 2, 1848, The Treaty of Guadeloupe Hidalgo was signed, later to be ratified by BOTH the U.S. and Mexican Congresses. The treaty called for the annexation of the northern portions of Mexico to the United States. In return, THE U.S. AGREED TO PAY $15 MILLION TO MEXICO as compensation for the seized territory.
Hardly stolen!
BigChiefDesoto almost 14 years ago
pbarnrob,
As Will Rogers said, “When the Okies moved to California, they improved the IQ of both places!”
ChuckTrent64 almost 14 years ago
This has been, for the most part, an extremely enlighting and intelligent discussion of a difficult question facing us all. I tend to agree that the analogy of the 1930’s Oklahoma refugees, who didn’t HAVE to be from OK to get the nickname, is a good one compared to the illegals from Mexico & lots of other countries on the globe. If there were no job opportunities here and if all patriotic employers, who love America, would only hire qualified, certified, legal Americans, then the Mexicans would be going south of the Rio Grande in a hurry & would have neveer been here in the first place. I hope this humble observation is welcomed into the conversation.
boldyuma almost 14 years ago
Yep…Shoe is a good strip..and it looks like the State Of The Union nattering ‘Nabobs’ are keeping it alive…just in a different location.. so sad….
CogentModality almost 14 years ago
15 million in 1848 dollars is just a tad more than that now. What with the minor improvements and all. We can always return it to the state it was in back then and then give it back.
gjeg923 almost 14 years ago
I think that’s very funny!! And so true. No to Illegals.
pbarnrob almost 14 years ago
BOUNDARY, n. In political geography, an imaginary line between two nations, separating the imaginary rights of one from the imaginary rights of the other. –Ambrose Bierce
benbrilling almost 14 years ago
^ A good quote! Coincidentally, I just reread (after ~40 years) his book and watched the movie “Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge.”