Trump hasn’t said where he’d get the estimated $265 billion dollars it would take to find and deport the 11 million undocumented (based on previous data). Especially in a country whose economy has just been devastated by an ignorant, cruel, counter-productive and racist policy. I guess he knows what conservatives want, but even businessmen some day have to acknowledge reality.
Not that any candidate supplies much in specifics at this point, but Trump is kind of sidling up to a policy that’s going to be an extremely unpopular as extremely popular policies go.
If he (or any president) does manage to significantly reduce the number of illegals in the country, what will happen to the agriculture industry? Meat packing? Construction? Restaurants? Janitorial services?
The notion that Americans won’t do any job is a filthy, unwashed, unclean lie. Shame on you! Americans will do any job if it pays the bills and provides a living. Businesses hire illegal aliens to avoid paying taxes and benefits.
Just advertise a position and see how many American applicants you’ll get. Americans will do any job that pays. Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!
Growing up in southern California, and then other agricultural areas after ag had been drivien out of most of that area by population growth (Dairy Valley has no dairies, and Orange County doesn’t raise oranges anymore), it was “green card” and then “undocumented” workers that drove/drive profits in agirculture, not everything can be mechanized.
That visa programs now allow Chinese and others to come here and displace American workers from HIGH SKILL high paying jobs (don’t need to export them) is a much bigger problem than those unskilled workers, WHO WE NEED!
Well, the downside is that certain prices will go up.And, to some extent, profits will dimish because of increased labor costs.
If mass deportations were done suddenly, several industries might well collapse, as least for a while. The experience of the Colorado meat packing industry several years ago is illustrative.
So, things would have to be phased in, in order to allow industries time to adjust.
But of course, in order to phase something in, it has to begin. And having a plan would be nice, too.
“I would think that a good place to begin would be by making it impossible for a business to employ illegals, and then let the salaries adjust as required by the pool of available legal workers.”
Absolutely. I’d support that, wholeheartedly.
And I’d add much stricter constraints on H-B1 visas (sp?).And eliminate any preferential tax treatments for companies that export jobs.
Not that deportation would be ruled out, or would even be given a lower priority, but at the very least the influx of illegals would greatly diminish.
I wouldn’t rule out examining minimum wage after the effects become known, but that would be a discussion for later.
You know, the real reason “illegal” immigration is even an issue is because America, as usual, doesn’t want to share the wealth (by which I mean “wealth” in a broad sense, beyond mere monetary reasons).
ConserveGov over 8 years ago
Man we wish!Who gets deported these days?Not killers in San Francisco because of prez B Hussein
ARodney over 8 years ago
Trump hasn’t said where he’d get the estimated $265 billion dollars it would take to find and deport the 11 million undocumented (based on previous data). Especially in a country whose economy has just been devastated by an ignorant, cruel, counter-productive and racist policy. I guess he knows what conservatives want, but even businessmen some day have to acknowledge reality.
kaffekup over 8 years ago
Because they don’t fit the narrative Faux has fed them?
braindead Premium Member over 8 years ago
Not that any candidate supplies much in specifics at this point, but Trump is kind of sidling up to a policy that’s going to be an extremely unpopular as extremely popular policies go.
If he (or any president) does manage to significantly reduce the number of illegals in the country, what will happen to the agriculture industry? Meat packing? Construction? Restaurants? Janitorial services?
Will people have to mow their own lawns?
sjsczurek over 8 years ago
The notion that Americans won’t do any job is a filthy, unwashed, unclean lie. Shame on you! Americans will do any job if it pays the bills and provides a living. Businesses hire illegal aliens to avoid paying taxes and benefits.
Just advertise a position and see how many American applicants you’ll get. Americans will do any job that pays. Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!
Dtroutma over 8 years ago
Growing up in southern California, and then other agricultural areas after ag had been drivien out of most of that area by population growth (Dairy Valley has no dairies, and Orange County doesn’t raise oranges anymore), it was “green card” and then “undocumented” workers that drove/drive profits in agirculture, not everything can be mechanized.
That visa programs now allow Chinese and others to come here and displace American workers from HIGH SKILL high paying jobs (don’t need to export them) is a much bigger problem than those unskilled workers, WHO WE NEED!
Simon_Jester over 8 years ago
Got anything to back up that claim…or are we all supposed to believe it just coz YOU said so?
And do you even know what La Mordida IS, Denny?
braindead Premium Member over 8 years ago
Well, the downside is that certain prices will go up.And, to some extent, profits will dimish because of increased labor costs.
If mass deportations were done suddenly, several industries might well collapse, as least for a while. The experience of the Colorado meat packing industry several years ago is illustrative.
So, things would have to be phased in, in order to allow industries time to adjust.
But of course, in order to phase something in, it has to begin. And having a plan would be nice, too.
braindead Premium Member over 8 years ago
“I would think that a good place to begin would be by making it impossible for a business to employ illegals, and then let the salaries adjust as required by the pool of available legal workers.”
Absolutely. I’d support that, wholeheartedly.
And I’d add much stricter constraints on H-B1 visas (sp?).And eliminate any preferential tax treatments for companies that export jobs.
Not that deportation would be ruled out, or would even be given a lower priority, but at the very least the influx of illegals would greatly diminish.
I wouldn’t rule out examining minimum wage after the effects become known, but that would be a discussion for later.
scyphi26 over 8 years ago
You know, the real reason “illegal” immigration is even an issue is because America, as usual, doesn’t want to share the wealth (by which I mean “wealth” in a broad sense, beyond mere monetary reasons).