From the First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”
It’s as simple as that. Have your National Day of Prayer, but do not expect it to be sponsored by a government founded on the principle that religion stays out of government…
Gee, I didnt know a national day of prayer infringed on your right to worship or not .Oh wait that would be a state sponsered religion.
Let us not forget the capitol building being promoted as a chapel by the same people who wrote that passage.
Get over your self and your self rigtiousness and quit trying to force others to your belief or lack there of.
Let me know how the courts rule on the “National Day of Porn” and the traditional strip tease before graduation, as well as the moment when the coach gathers all the players together before a game and has them masturbate.
You are free to pray whenever and wherever and in whatever manner you choose. You are also free to organize with whomever you desire and assemble to pray in any forum you like without fear of reprisal. You are not, however, free to force me or my government to endorse your activities. Why would you want that, anyway? I personally like the wall of separation to keep government out of my church, and I’m fine with the fact that it also keeps church out of my government.
…um, the capitol building didn’t exist when the first amendment was written…
Considering the Federal recognition of the Christmas holiday, one might have a point that that endorses a religious festival. I guess they get around that by suggesting it is a winter holiday that celebrates whatever festival is going on at that time.
In that light, a national day of prayer isn’t entirely out of whack with Federal tradition.
On the other hand, there is a strong undercurrent of Christian (particularly Evangelical Christian) preference in the movement for a day of prayer. Getting the government to recognize the day of prayer is another foot-in-the-door for Christianizing the government, and that would be no different than running a country like Afghanistan through Islamic law. The Constitution is written to prevent such from happening because the founding fathers recognized that a government allied with religion strengthened tyranny.
“Get over your self and your self rigtiousness and quit trying to force others to your belief or lack there of.”
I honestly don’t know which side of the debate you are taking. Literally both sides can say that. That is exactly why our founding fathers chose to not get involved. Whenever the government sponsors “religion” many may think that is the one they want established. Best to keep it private. That is one of our disagreements with Islamic countries. There is a state established religion in those countries.
Pray at home, at church, in the park, on the street but don’t demand the official endorsement of our government.
The sad thing about it is that Obama is the first “president” since The National Day of Prayer was introduced by presidency, to not participate in it. Yet he was able to celebrate ramadan. Obviously weird.
He he… The libs always babble on about all the reasons something isn’t right…while forgetting (or concealing) that the reason there is a National Day of Prayer is because the PEOPLE want it!
Are these abortions OR BORN AGAIN Christians? If they are BORN AGAIN, they are humans who know that the future here on earth requires the correct usage of resources and technology.
Pup, let’s have a referendum on whether people want the National Day of Prayer – but make it specific. Do we want to have a day of ALL prayer? Americans include not only Christians but Jews, Hindu, Buddhist, Druids, Jedi, Church of the Subgenius…
Keep religion out of government, for God’s sake!
Oh, yeah, and a lot of states have managed to virtually eliminate abortion, so this toon is far from accurate. And porn is covered by the First Amendment. If religious people put legal constraints on porn, that is a double violation of the First Amendment!
I just believe in the fact that it is very important to remember God and have God in all of our thoughts. As this verse says:
1 Chronicles 28:9 KJV
And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.
I’m with you, Kelly. The values a society suppresses (on the basis of “private” freedom) are the ones that lose all prominence in the culture. On the other hand, the ones that a culture advertises, aggrandizes, promotes (through television, radio, recordings, internet, etc.) are the ones that will win. It seems America stands for sex at any cost.
That’s not the point stupid. Do we need a day to pray. Yah just like blacks need a history month and homeosexuals have parades and gay day, hispanics have a month also and cinco de mayo and blah blah blah. Just like the fourth of july and St. Patty’s day, Martin Luther King day, why do the people need a day? Blow it out your shorts. I haven’t heard any Amelia Airhart day or the Write brothers day I mean come on seriously. Everyone is beggers and choosers. If we ask for one we’re racist, if we ask for another we’re just celebrating the life of good and important people. Whatever. Everyone in this entire world is a hypocrite. EVERY SINGLE ONE
jqmcd about 14 years ago
From the First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”
It’s as simple as that. Have your National Day of Prayer, but do not expect it to be sponsored by a government founded on the principle that religion stays out of government…
davesmithsit about 14 years ago
Gee, I didnt know a national day of prayer infringed on your right to worship or not .Oh wait that would be a state sponsered religion. Let us not forget the capitol building being promoted as a chapel by the same people who wrote that passage. Get over your self and your self rigtiousness and quit trying to force others to your belief or lack there of.
Dtroutma about 14 years ago
Were they his virgins?
WarBush about 14 years ago
Good!
biemmezeta about 14 years ago
A classic!!
Michael Peterson Premium Member about 14 years ago
Let me know how the courts rule on the “National Day of Porn” and the traditional strip tease before graduation, as well as the moment when the coach gathers all the players together before a game and has them masturbate.
ianrey about 14 years ago
You are free to pray whenever and wherever and in whatever manner you choose. You are also free to organize with whomever you desire and assemble to pray in any forum you like without fear of reprisal. You are not, however, free to force me or my government to endorse your activities. Why would you want that, anyway? I personally like the wall of separation to keep government out of my church, and I’m fine with the fact that it also keeps church out of my government.
jqmcd about 14 years ago
…um, the capitol building didn’t exist when the first amendment was written…
Considering the Federal recognition of the Christmas holiday, one might have a point that that endorses a religious festival. I guess they get around that by suggesting it is a winter holiday that celebrates whatever festival is going on at that time.
In that light, a national day of prayer isn’t entirely out of whack with Federal tradition.
On the other hand, there is a strong undercurrent of Christian (particularly Evangelical Christian) preference in the movement for a day of prayer. Getting the government to recognize the day of prayer is another foot-in-the-door for Christianizing the government, and that would be no different than running a country like Afghanistan through Islamic law. The Constitution is written to prevent such from happening because the founding fathers recognized that a government allied with religion strengthened tyranny.
Dtroutma about 14 years ago
Make the national leaders pray to Vishnu, or Voodoo, and the reality of this farce becomes more exposed.
Pray as you wish, like Jesus said, in private!
Libertarian1 about 14 years ago
“Get over your self and your self rigtiousness and quit trying to force others to your belief or lack there of.”
I honestly don’t know which side of the debate you are taking. Literally both sides can say that. That is exactly why our founding fathers chose to not get involved. Whenever the government sponsors “religion” many may think that is the one they want established. Best to keep it private. That is one of our disagreements with Islamic countries. There is a state established religion in those countries.
Pray at home, at church, in the park, on the street but don’t demand the official endorsement of our government.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 14 years ago
You guys need a day to pray?
It’s your time. Do what you want with it.
runar about 14 years ago
National Day of Prayer - established 1952. Another relic of the Cold War.
WarBush about 14 years ago
<=======^What’d you say about me?
comYics about 14 years ago
The sad thing about it is that Obama is the first “president” since The National Day of Prayer was introduced by presidency, to not participate in it. Yet he was able to celebrate ramadan. Obviously weird.
charliekane about 14 years ago
Passover and Christmas made the White House list too. BFD.
And St. Patrick’s Day, Columbus Day, etc.
It’s kinda’ what presidents do.
fallacyside about 14 years ago
He he… The libs always babble on about all the reasons something isn’t right…while forgetting (or concealing) that the reason there is a National Day of Prayer is because the PEOPLE want it!
SherriannPederson about 14 years ago
Are these abortions OR BORN AGAIN Christians? If they are BORN AGAIN, they are humans who know that the future here on earth requires the correct usage of resources and technology.
Wildcard24365 about 14 years ago
@dtroutma
Pray as you wish, like Jesus said, in private!
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
Motivemagus about 14 years ago
Pup, let’s have a referendum on whether people want the National Day of Prayer – but make it specific. Do we want to have a day of ALL prayer? Americans include not only Christians but Jews, Hindu, Buddhist, Druids, Jedi, Church of the Subgenius… Keep religion out of government, for God’s sake!
Motivemagus about 14 years ago
Oh, yeah, and a lot of states have managed to virtually eliminate abortion, so this toon is far from accurate. And porn is covered by the First Amendment. If religious people put legal constraints on porn, that is a double violation of the First Amendment!
fallacyside about 14 years ago
:^( I said I was sorry about calling you fennec…
zekedog55 about 14 years ago
Que up the Who…
“Who are you? Who who, who who?”
How about “What’s My Line?”
Will the real English Teacher please stand up?
comYics about 14 years ago
I just believe in the fact that it is very important to remember God and have God in all of our thoughts. As this verse says:
1 Chronicles 28:9 KJV And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.
oswaldsnark about 14 years ago
I’m with you, Kelly. The values a society suppresses (on the basis of “private” freedom) are the ones that lose all prominence in the culture. On the other hand, the ones that a culture advertises, aggrandizes, promotes (through television, radio, recordings, internet, etc.) are the ones that will win. It seems America stands for sex at any cost.
mnalacour about 14 years ago
That’s not the point stupid. Do we need a day to pray. Yah just like blacks need a history month and homeosexuals have parades and gay day, hispanics have a month also and cinco de mayo and blah blah blah. Just like the fourth of july and St. Patty’s day, Martin Luther King day, why do the people need a day? Blow it out your shorts. I haven’t heard any Amelia Airhart day or the Write brothers day I mean come on seriously. Everyone is beggers and choosers. If we ask for one we’re racist, if we ask for another we’re just celebrating the life of good and important people. Whatever. Everyone in this entire world is a hypocrite. EVERY SINGLE ONE