I don’t see how austerity/sequestration played any role in this. I do not recall any news items about lack of vaccine or problems in distribution or even in access to medical facilities to obtain the shots. On top of that I just saw an item on CNN stating that 63% of the cases are in people over 20. So looks like antivaxers have been around for quite a bit.
The comments so far don’t seem to have anything to do with the toon. It is upper middle class, well educated suburban moms who were scared by the autism myth and convinced themselves they were smarter than the medical profession. I wouldn’t mind it quite as much if they just killed their own kids but unfortunately the will kill other peoples kids and parents grandparents. Pseudo intellectualism at it’s best.
Hmm, what’s interesting is that Disney Corp is probably the most right-wing not only in California, but the U.S. (hmm they own ABC, ESPN, and control “news”, even in sports) and now the measles is a corporation’s fault? Oh, Lisa, do you mean this?
Still under 200 cases reported on the news last night, so this is a huge problem? Fear is the problem, and it hits a home run in every “park” drawing the public.
Actually, it is entirely possible that a foreign visitor brought the index case, but “patient zero” has not yet been formally identified. I will say from experience that if it is a foreign visitor, then odds are good it was someone from Europe. Sadly, measles is still endemic in countries like Germany and Switzerland, because those countries also have a high rate of anti-vaccination sentiment based around the glorification of “natural lifestyle.” Epidemic outbreaks have started from transfer from disease from there in very recent years.
I thought Lisa Benson was from Texas but she sure has a fascination or envy of California. Nothing to small to occupy her mind. Texas must be glorious with minds like hers.We, in California, don’t have a political cartoonist or any for that matter that have any obsession for Texas. Why bother wasting your time. Let Texans figure it out for themselves.
Uh, thalidomide was anti-nauea, anti-anxiety, nothing to do with vaccination to prevent diseases.
Yes, measles can be dangerous, had measles, mumps, AND whooping cough, all at the same time as a kid, sick kid indeed. But, in America with 300 million people panid over Ebola, or many other statistically insiginificant threats, IS enough to cause panic in 100 million “conswervatives”.
Jase….." Jenny McCarthy isn’t “lefty, democrat Hollywood” type?Bwahhhh!The highest levels of anti-vaccine are in strongly Democrat areas of Ca. Some schools in Malibu have only half their kids vaccinated. Liberal loons that believe anything the read on the internet.Sounds like a lot of Lefty posters on here!
An illegal was not likely to be spending hundreds of dollars taking their kid to Disneyland.
And, the people who allowed this outbreak to start and are keeping it rolling, are the home-grown citizen anti-vaccinationists who deliberately want their children to be potential disease vectors and who have destroyed the herd immunity. We know this because measles is a notifiable disease – all known or suspected cases must be reported to the State Health Board – and so we know who is catching and transmitting the disease.
By the way, for those bringing up thalidomide as a comparison for why people don’t trust medicine or the government – do any of you happen to realize that thalidomide was never approved for use in the US. It was never used in the US.
But the drug does have an interesting history, and it is not an unmitigated evil; its lessons tightened up drug control and testing everywhere, and even now, when used carefully, it can help people with leprosy and some cancers quite successfully. Find out more.
What it isn’t, is a good reason to distrust the most tested and most-monitored medical intervention ever, which has been in use for decades.
^^^ LOL….You’ve been proven wrong so stop trying…Maybe you can for once not be shill, and disagree with your liberal loons that say measles shots cause autism?I doubt you will tho.
By definition a “liberal” would accept scientific data and proofs over myth and unfounded fear. “Republican” and “Democrat” both are terms poorly defined as “radicals” on both sides of BOTH those parties have distorted the aims of the national parties, to muddied mumblings. The rational speech and actions of both Ike and JFK are lost on their respective “parties” today.
ConserveGov over 9 years ago
The vast majority of parents denying their kids of measles shots are lefty, democrat Hollywood types that want to “keep it natural”….lol.
derdave969 over 9 years ago
I don’t see how austerity/sequestration played any role in this. I do not recall any news items about lack of vaccine or problems in distribution or even in access to medical facilities to obtain the shots. On top of that I just saw an item on CNN stating that 63% of the cases are in people over 20. So looks like antivaxers have been around for quite a bit.
Theodore E. Lind Premium Member over 9 years ago
The comments so far don’t seem to have anything to do with the toon. It is upper middle class, well educated suburban moms who were scared by the autism myth and convinced themselves they were smarter than the medical profession. I wouldn’t mind it quite as much if they just killed their own kids but unfortunately the will kill other peoples kids and parents grandparents. Pseudo intellectualism at it’s best.
BaltoBill over 9 years ago
Too bad there isn’t a vaccine for “stupid”.
Dtroutma over 9 years ago
Hmm, what’s interesting is that Disney Corp is probably the most right-wing not only in California, but the U.S. (hmm they own ABC, ESPN, and control “news”, even in sports) and now the measles is a corporation’s fault? Oh, Lisa, do you mean this?
Still under 200 cases reported on the news last night, so this is a huge problem? Fear is the problem, and it hits a home run in every “park” drawing the public.
nanellen over 9 years ago
I believe they said it was a foreign visitor. Apparently those who were affected didn’t have vaccinations for numerous reasons.
lbatik over 9 years ago
Actually, it is entirely possible that a foreign visitor brought the index case, but “patient zero” has not yet been formally identified. I will say from experience that if it is a foreign visitor, then odds are good it was someone from Europe. Sadly, measles is still endemic in countries like Germany and Switzerland, because those countries also have a high rate of anti-vaccination sentiment based around the glorification of “natural lifestyle.” Epidemic outbreaks have started from transfer from disease from there in very recent years.
PainterArt Premium Member over 9 years ago
I thought Lisa Benson was from Texas but she sure has a fascination or envy of California. Nothing to small to occupy her mind. Texas must be glorious with minds like hers.We, in California, don’t have a political cartoonist or any for that matter that have any obsession for Texas. Why bother wasting your time. Let Texans figure it out for themselves.
Mneedle over 9 years ago
This may also be the result of not having borders.
Dtroutma over 9 years ago
Uh, thalidomide was anti-nauea, anti-anxiety, nothing to do with vaccination to prevent diseases.
Yes, measles can be dangerous, had measles, mumps, AND whooping cough, all at the same time as a kid, sick kid indeed. But, in America with 300 million people panid over Ebola, or many other statistically insiginificant threats, IS enough to cause panic in 100 million “conswervatives”.
ConserveGov over 9 years ago
Jase….." Jenny McCarthy isn’t “lefty, democrat Hollywood” type?Bwahhhh!The highest levels of anti-vaccine are in strongly Democrat areas of Ca. Some schools in Malibu have only half their kids vaccinated. Liberal loons that believe anything the read on the internet.Sounds like a lot of Lefty posters on here!
lbatik over 9 years ago
An illegal was not likely to be spending hundreds of dollars taking their kid to Disneyland.
And, the people who allowed this outbreak to start and are keeping it rolling, are the home-grown citizen anti-vaccinationists who deliberately want their children to be potential disease vectors and who have destroyed the herd immunity. We know this because measles is a notifiable disease – all known or suspected cases must be reported to the State Health Board – and so we know who is catching and transmitting the disease.
lbatik over 9 years ago
By the way, for those bringing up thalidomide as a comparison for why people don’t trust medicine or the government – do any of you happen to realize that thalidomide was never approved for use in the US. It was never used in the US.
But the drug does have an interesting history, and it is not an unmitigated evil; its lessons tightened up drug control and testing everywhere, and even now, when used carefully, it can help people with leprosy and some cancers quite successfully. Find out more.
What it isn’t, is a good reason to distrust the most tested and most-monitored medical intervention ever, which has been in use for decades.
Dtroutma over 9 years ago
News was quick to blame “furreners” and then came the jump to illegals from Mexico. Wait til that Swiss tourist is I.D.d as the source.
ConserveGov over 9 years ago
^^^ LOL….You’ve been proven wrong so stop trying…Maybe you can for once not be shill, and disagree with your liberal loons that say measles shots cause autism?I doubt you will tho.
Dtroutma over 9 years ago
By definition a “liberal” would accept scientific data and proofs over myth and unfounded fear. “Republican” and “Democrat” both are terms poorly defined as “radicals” on both sides of BOTH those parties have distorted the aims of the national parties, to muddied mumblings. The rational speech and actions of both Ike and JFK are lost on their respective “parties” today.