Jim Morin for November 28, 2014

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    neatslob Premium Member over 9 years ago

    To conservatives, immigration reform means rebuilding the Berlin Wall on our southern border. They don’t actually want those here illegally thrown out, though, but they don’t want them made legal either. As they are now, businesses can pay them well below minimum wage under the table.

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    Jason Allen  over 9 years ago

    As far as childish name calling goes, referring to them as the Democrat Party instead of Democratic Party is the mildest if it even is name calling. Posters on both sides of the political divide on this forum have called far more childish names that that. Your referring the Republicans as “Roachpublican” is one of them. If you want to hold yourself better than your opponent you have to act like it.

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    Diane Lee Premium Member over 9 years ago

    Obama says that he has to run the country as best he can on his own because the Republicans refuse to do their job. This simply makes it clear that he doesn’t understand what the Republican’s job is. The Republicans in congress are doing their job very well. If they can’t accomplish anything that Obama won’t veto, then they can stall so that the Democrats can’t accomplish anything either. Their intention is to keep everything just as it is, unless they can manage to return to the “good old days” of the 19th century, before there was a middle class and when only the landed gentry were voters. And, they have a great strategy for accomplishing this. 1. Disenfranchise everyone you possibly can, unless they are dependable Republican voters.2. Produce ads and media emphasis which emphasizes those politicians who are corrupt and incompetent. Paint all Democrats with the same slime. Lacking sufficient actual slime, simply make some up. This undermines the people’s trust in their government and makes them feel like helpless pawns, so they tune out the whole process, accept the status quo, and are even less likely to vote. 3. Support the “job creators”, who are the recipients of a huge portion of the GNP, although that GNP was produced by working people, who are receiving less benefit from it every day. This gives them the money to accomplish the other two goals, and leaves everyone except the “job creators” with increasingly less money to mount a counter campaign. So, this is the way we are going lose the middle class and become a country inhabited only by the very rich 1%, and a 99% who are too busy working two jobs to survive to notice.

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    Dtroutma  over 9 years ago

    MIkefive: you probably know you can go to the White House web page (the real one!) and get the text of EOs there. But from his statements to date, I’m not so sure he’s actually SIGNED any EO as yet on the immigration reform.

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    Cerabooge  over 9 years ago

    Jase99: But I’m not trying to hold myself as better than them. I prefer to echo their behavior back at them. Am-plified.

    I think people failed to see why I referred to Rwanda. Name-calling is a technique to dehumanize people – so that you can justify to yourself MURDERING those people. That’s where it ends up. So I fight back with gusto against the seemingly petty behavior that, as I see it, is a prelude to violence.

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