old when you swing at a cop things usually go from bad to worse quickly, sometimes for the cop. No excuses, just a lot happening in a very short time frame with two parties in distress.
All this burning and rioting started over a snatch and run of a handful of cigarillos and an altercation with a police officer. And it takes 2200 national guard to try quell the rioting, roughly the same number of military as sent to Iraq to quell ISIS. Looks like America has enough problems at home before trying to “spread freedom” abroad.
I have not heard anything about his weight or height but the facts are (disallowing evidence of the robbery):- two men walking down the middle of the street and when the police ask/tell them to get out of the street, (most law abiding citizens wouldn’t be in the middle of the street and if they were they would get out of it when told by a police officer) - one attacks the police car. - man attacking police injures police officer.- gun goes off and attacker slightly wounded (thumb) - attacker flees and then turns and either walks/stumbles/runs (depending upon who you believe) toward the police officer.How much more does it take to constitute a threat?- Notice none of this involved race, strictly fact between two men. Sorry but my folks taught me to obey the law and the police, even if you disagree.
IMO, what is missing is an arrest of the officer along with an open trial so everyone could testify. Grand juries only present one side. Not one witness was called except for the officer. His post-announcement interview failed to ask the most impirtant question: WHY IN THE WORLD DID IT TAKE YOU 8 BULLETS TO DOWN A “SUSPECTED ROBBER.?” The officer should resign, change his name, find another line of work. He us a thug with a badge.
The element that most people miss and is most troubling to me is that Michael Brown was up to 180 feet away from the officer, more than half a football field, when the fatal shots were fired. Is that an imminent threat requiring deadly force?
“Ironic. People will give the criminal EVERY benefit of doubt (despite video and scientific proof of his crimes) and the man who put his life on the line every day for years none”I agree. And in the case of Cliven Bundy and his possie, some people will call said criminals patriots and heroes while the guys who put their lives on the line to enforce the law get called evil jack booted thugs.
I have not read eveything about the Michael Brown case. But, like every other incident, witness’s stories conflict. Other evidence can be interpeted in differing ways. Blacks and Latinos reacted violently over the Rodney King video. Whites did not riot after the Michael Brown video. Why? I was angered and frustrated when a group of black men (Boston, during the 1970’s) poured gasoline on a young white woman and set her on fire, laughing as she walked away. She died in the hospital, hours later. I was again upset when a group of black men assaulted a white man in his car, at a stop light, with bricks and cinder blocks (same time period), and put him into a coma. He died years later, never recovering. I, along with many others were angered, but we did not run riot in the streets of Boston.
Over the years I have conversed with many policemen, state troopers, and sheriff deputies. I have heard many stories of what they have endured, how some narrowly escaped death, how some actually risked their lives to bring a violent perpetrator in, only to see him walk away, thanks to some fancy lawyering.
From what I have read and seen of this case, if Michael Brown is being held up as a martyr, the the black community in Ferguson MO. have a problem.I will not deny that Black people, in general,do suffer many forms of discrimination and hate, but Michael Brown and Rodney King were not worth a single pane of broken glass.
The Ferguson prosecutor made one crucial mistake; he should have shown this cartoon to the grand jury. It would have definetely resulted in an indictment. Judgement by the press only counts for the naive.
That’s right, Clay. There was no probable cause to indict a police officer who, in the legitimate and lawful course of his duties, shot a man who had just robbed and assaulted a store owner; assaulted the police officer, hitting him several times in the head with fist and slamming the car door on him; resisted arrest; left the scene, and returned only to disobey an order from the officer to stop where he was. As to the claims of a broken eye socket, etc., what is media dreck and what came from the officer? As to fearing for his life, in the interview the officer gave George Stephanopoulos, it wasn’t the hits he was afraid would kill him, it was what would follow his losing consciousness. Yes, Clay, when people do that to police officers they put their lives at risk no matter who they are. And yes, Clay, there was no probable cause to indict the officer on any count.
Good Grief, I have to agree with you on something (better not make a habit of it, you never know what people will say). It struck me when I read the evidense given to the GJ that stated that officer Wilson (who had been an officcer on this police force for years) had never before even had to pull his side arm out, let alone use it. So now he then decides to not only pull it out, but use it to shoot this particular black man? It made no sense at all to me.
And I can easily see that if the GJ could not find enough evidense to convict the officer in question, then the far higher standards of conviction of a regular jury certainly would have found him innocent also. In fact, the main job of a GJ is to find out if the prosecutiuon actually has enough of a case to even stand a chance of getting such a conviction, and evidently that is just what they did!
And aginst this, people in this country (a country supposedly under law) are now rioting, and destroying their own communities?? Just how dumb can people get (regardless of political stances)!!
ConserveGov over 9 years ago
This toon is very accurate except for this very minor detail……
The 6’4 300lb man assaulted a police officer and was grabbing his gun minutes after robbing a liquor store.
Odon Premium Member over 9 years ago
old when you swing at a cop things usually go from bad to worse quickly, sometimes for the cop. No excuses, just a lot happening in a very short time frame with two parties in distress.
Observer fo Irony over 9 years ago
Is this about the Ferguson incident or did another bad cop choice occur.
Gypsy8 over 9 years ago
All this burning and rioting started over a snatch and run of a handful of cigarillos and an altercation with a police officer. And it takes 2200 national guard to try quell the rioting, roughly the same number of military as sent to Iraq to quell ISIS. Looks like America has enough problems at home before trying to “spread freedom” abroad.
Sportymonk over 9 years ago
I have not heard anything about his weight or height but the facts are (disallowing evidence of the robbery):- two men walking down the middle of the street and when the police ask/tell them to get out of the street, (most law abiding citizens wouldn’t be in the middle of the street and if they were they would get out of it when told by a police officer) - one attacks the police car. - man attacking police injures police officer.- gun goes off and attacker slightly wounded (thumb) - attacker flees and then turns and either walks/stumbles/runs (depending upon who you believe) toward the police officer.How much more does it take to constitute a threat?- Notice none of this involved race, strictly fact between two men. Sorry but my folks taught me to obey the law and the police, even if you disagree.
Crabbyrino Premium Member over 9 years ago
IMO, what is missing is an arrest of the officer along with an open trial so everyone could testify. Grand juries only present one side. Not one witness was called except for the officer. His post-announcement interview failed to ask the most impirtant question: WHY IN THE WORLD DID IT TAKE YOU 8 BULLETS TO DOWN A “SUSPECTED ROBBER.?” The officer should resign, change his name, find another line of work. He us a thug with a badge.
davidlorch over 9 years ago
The element that most people miss and is most troubling to me is that Michael Brown was up to 180 feet away from the officer, more than half a football field, when the fatal shots were fired. Is that an imminent threat requiring deadly force?
Jason Allen over 9 years ago
“Ironic. People will give the criminal EVERY benefit of doubt (despite video and scientific proof of his crimes) and the man who put his life on the line every day for years none”I agree. And in the case of Cliven Bundy and his possie, some people will call said criminals patriots and heroes while the guys who put their lives on the line to enforce the law get called evil jack booted thugs.
moosemin over 9 years ago
I have not read eveything about the Michael Brown case. But, like every other incident, witness’s stories conflict. Other evidence can be interpeted in differing ways. Blacks and Latinos reacted violently over the Rodney King video. Whites did not riot after the Michael Brown video. Why? I was angered and frustrated when a group of black men (Boston, during the 1970’s) poured gasoline on a young white woman and set her on fire, laughing as she walked away. She died in the hospital, hours later. I was again upset when a group of black men assaulted a white man in his car, at a stop light, with bricks and cinder blocks (same time period), and put him into a coma. He died years later, never recovering. I, along with many others were angered, but we did not run riot in the streets of Boston.
Over the years I have conversed with many policemen, state troopers, and sheriff deputies. I have heard many stories of what they have endured, how some narrowly escaped death, how some actually risked their lives to bring a violent perpetrator in, only to see him walk away, thanks to some fancy lawyering.
From what I have read and seen of this case, if Michael Brown is being held up as a martyr, the the black community in Ferguson MO. have a problem.I will not deny that Black people, in general,do suffer many forms of discrimination and hate, but Michael Brown and Rodney King were not worth a single pane of broken glass.
canFunny over 9 years ago
The Ferguson prosecutor made one crucial mistake; he should have shown this cartoon to the grand jury. It would have definetely resulted in an indictment. Judgement by the press only counts for the naive.
dogday Premium Member over 9 years ago
That’s right, Clay. There was no probable cause to indict a police officer who, in the legitimate and lawful course of his duties, shot a man who had just robbed and assaulted a store owner; assaulted the police officer, hitting him several times in the head with fist and slamming the car door on him; resisted arrest; left the scene, and returned only to disobey an order from the officer to stop where he was. As to the claims of a broken eye socket, etc., what is media dreck and what came from the officer? As to fearing for his life, in the interview the officer gave George Stephanopoulos, it wasn’t the hits he was afraid would kill him, it was what would follow his losing consciousness. Yes, Clay, when people do that to police officers they put their lives at risk no matter who they are. And yes, Clay, there was no probable cause to indict the officer on any count.
frodo1008 over 9 years ago
Good Grief, I have to agree with you on something (better not make a habit of it, you never know what people will say). It struck me when I read the evidense given to the GJ that stated that officer Wilson (who had been an officcer on this police force for years) had never before even had to pull his side arm out, let alone use it. So now he then decides to not only pull it out, but use it to shoot this particular black man? It made no sense at all to me.
And I can easily see that if the GJ could not find enough evidense to convict the officer in question, then the far higher standards of conviction of a regular jury certainly would have found him innocent also. In fact, the main job of a GJ is to find out if the prosecutiuon actually has enough of a case to even stand a chance of getting such a conviction, and evidently that is just what they did!
And aginst this, people in this country (a country supposedly under law) are now rioting, and destroying their own communities?? Just how dumb can people get (regardless of political stances)!!