Repeal and replace with nothing sounds fantastic!Most Americans were actually happy with their healthcare before Barry and his cronies screwed it all up.
Robert Landers and Adrian Snare said all that needs to be said. I am sorry that ConGov and Ansonia are not more aware of their neighbors who are suffering from no fault of their own. Too many Americans are as innocent in their consequences as a person walking on the sidewalk suddenly struck by an uninsured driver, a falling tree branch, or a lightning strike. Using the minority of Americans who abuse the system, whether they be on food stamps or receiving gov’t subsidies for their business, ignores the large majority for whom protections were created, the ones who actually need them. Dems and Reps alike use the few in order to castigate the many. Not all Reps are Ted Cruz, and not all Dems are Alan Gray. Very few businesses are Exxon/Goldman Sachs, and very few Food Stamp recipients are crack dealing prostitutes. The small print matters. That’s where the loopholes, addendums, and earmarks are found. Healthcare matters. If you are going to cancel the ACA, then tell hospitals they are allowed to turn away any patient who can’t show they can make payment. No money, no ER visit. Die or live with the results of your injury and income.Most who die will be the poor and disenfranchised, but Debtfree will one day get a call from a friend or relative who says if they don’t get help, they’re not going to be treated for their heart attack. ConGov will get a call from son or daughter whose compound fracture is going to be ignored unless a credit card payment is made over the phone. Ansonia will lose someone they love because the hospital said, “We can’t treat you unless you can pay.”Too many people don’t care about the person they pass on the street, but when friends and loved ones don’t send Christmas cards this year because they’re dead, and just because they couldn’t afford treatment, then even those who want the ACA replaced with nothing will notice.I just wonder how many of the people we don’t know will have to die before Americans start caring.Angrily,C.
Yeah!! To hell with those who can’t afford health insurance, put off seeing the doctor until it’s a dire emergency, declare bankruptcy, and stick everyone else with their massive medical bills.Screw those who can’t get insurance due to preexisting conditions, put off seeing the doctor until it’s a dire emergency, declare bankruptcy, and stick everyone else with their medical bills.Forget those who find their insurance canceled when they actually need to use it, declare bankruptcy, and stick everyone else with the bill.The World Health Organization may have ranked the US healthcare system #37, below Columbia and Costa Rica, but we’re #1 for the few who can afford quality insurance. We’ll happily absorb everyone else’s health care expenses in the form of higher bills and insurance premiums if it means maintaining the insurance companies’ lucrative status quo! Us lucky few see us as #1 and that’s all that matters.
Actually the Republicans have offered several bills with some changes. Many of the areas are the same: pre-existing, children etc. It is the Prez and the Dems who refused to even entertain another version.
I am done, the ultra conservatives here are far too set in their ways to ever even try to reason with anymore. At my age (71), I am far better off doing something far more useful, such as playing World of Warcraft or even just plain sleeping. I am just happy to be on Medicare. And my particular provider has no plans at all to change anything because of the ACA. Most of the people who can not get medical insurance are hard working middle class Americans (a number of which I personally know) who make just enough that they do not qualify for any governmental help at all (at least until now). And have any of you ultra conservatives ever even tried to get individual health care in this country? Sure, you might be able to afford it if your income puts you into the top 5% or so of the wage earners, but otherwise forget it!! Just one example was from my own cardiologist (yes, I have a heart problem). He has a 46 year old working patient who just had a massive heart attack, He needs a special machine to help him continue to live as he has lost a lot of heart muscle. But he has no insurance as he could not possibly afford it. He will very probably die with the next year or so. (and just so I don’t get the usual smart remarks, yes my cardiologist is doing everything he can for this man for gratis) Just thought I would leave you with that one. And one of the very reasons why we do not have the average life expectancy of many of the other first world industrialized countries is exactly because of our poor rating in health care. Good Lord, I thought that would be obvious to anybody!!
Thank you, I have just joined the group. But it will take awhile for me to get used to exactly how to post and use the system. I am not really angry with the most conservative posters here (in fact I sometimes even agree with their views), just the over all tone of their quite often vitriol filled posts. After awhile, this kind of thing gets to you, not only do you no longer even wish to post yourself, you no longer even wish to even just lurk about and or even read their posts! I have no trouble imagining that this site has lost quite a few truly excellent posters here as a result. I know that I have been on some other comment boards in the past where this has happened also, and in truth it saddens me more than it makes me angry.
I do remember once stumbling onto a discussion board that was truly fantastic. It was centered on JRR Tolkien’s excellent works (The Lord of The Ring series for instance). The people there quite often disagreed strongly on various aspects of the Middle Earth stories, but were always kind, considerate, and even compassionate with each other!! Unfortunately I was too stupefied to keep the URL, and so lost contact. Oh well!!
ConserveGov over 10 years ago
Repeal and replace with nothing sounds fantastic!Most Americans were actually happy with their healthcare before Barry and his cronies screwed it all up.
chazandru over 10 years ago
Robert Landers and Adrian Snare said all that needs to be said. I am sorry that ConGov and Ansonia are not more aware of their neighbors who are suffering from no fault of their own. Too many Americans are as innocent in their consequences as a person walking on the sidewalk suddenly struck by an uninsured driver, a falling tree branch, or a lightning strike. Using the minority of Americans who abuse the system, whether they be on food stamps or receiving gov’t subsidies for their business, ignores the large majority for whom protections were created, the ones who actually need them. Dems and Reps alike use the few in order to castigate the many. Not all Reps are Ted Cruz, and not all Dems are Alan Gray. Very few businesses are Exxon/Goldman Sachs, and very few Food Stamp recipients are crack dealing prostitutes. The small print matters. That’s where the loopholes, addendums, and earmarks are found. Healthcare matters. If you are going to cancel the ACA, then tell hospitals they are allowed to turn away any patient who can’t show they can make payment. No money, no ER visit. Die or live with the results of your injury and income.Most who die will be the poor and disenfranchised, but Debtfree will one day get a call from a friend or relative who says if they don’t get help, they’re not going to be treated for their heart attack. ConGov will get a call from son or daughter whose compound fracture is going to be ignored unless a credit card payment is made over the phone. Ansonia will lose someone they love because the hospital said, “We can’t treat you unless you can pay.”Too many people don’t care about the person they pass on the street, but when friends and loved ones don’t send Christmas cards this year because they’re dead, and just because they couldn’t afford treatment, then even those who want the ACA replaced with nothing will notice.I just wonder how many of the people we don’t know will have to die before Americans start caring.Angrily,C.
Jason Allen over 10 years ago
Yeah!! To hell with those who can’t afford health insurance, put off seeing the doctor until it’s a dire emergency, declare bankruptcy, and stick everyone else with their massive medical bills.Screw those who can’t get insurance due to preexisting conditions, put off seeing the doctor until it’s a dire emergency, declare bankruptcy, and stick everyone else with their medical bills.Forget those who find their insurance canceled when they actually need to use it, declare bankruptcy, and stick everyone else with the bill.The World Health Organization may have ranked the US healthcare system #37, below Columbia and Costa Rica, but we’re #1 for the few who can afford quality insurance. We’ll happily absorb everyone else’s health care expenses in the form of higher bills and insurance premiums if it means maintaining the insurance companies’ lucrative status quo! Us lucky few see us as #1 and that’s all that matters.
nanellen over 10 years ago
Actually the Republicans have offered several bills with some changes. Many of the areas are the same: pre-existing, children etc. It is the Prez and the Dems who refused to even entertain another version.
pirate227 over 10 years ago
Ah, the truth.
frodo1008 over 10 years ago
I am done, the ultra conservatives here are far too set in their ways to ever even try to reason with anymore. At my age (71), I am far better off doing something far more useful, such as playing World of Warcraft or even just plain sleeping. I am just happy to be on Medicare. And my particular provider has no plans at all to change anything because of the ACA. Most of the people who can not get medical insurance are hard working middle class Americans (a number of which I personally know) who make just enough that they do not qualify for any governmental help at all (at least until now). And have any of you ultra conservatives ever even tried to get individual health care in this country? Sure, you might be able to afford it if your income puts you into the top 5% or so of the wage earners, but otherwise forget it!! Just one example was from my own cardiologist (yes, I have a heart problem). He has a 46 year old working patient who just had a massive heart attack, He needs a special machine to help him continue to live as he has lost a lot of heart muscle. But he has no insurance as he could not possibly afford it. He will very probably die with the next year or so. (and just so I don’t get the usual smart remarks, yes my cardiologist is doing everything he can for this man for gratis) Just thought I would leave you with that one. And one of the very reasons why we do not have the average life expectancy of many of the other first world industrialized countries is exactly because of our poor rating in health care. Good Lord, I thought that would be obvious to anybody!!
frodo1008 over 10 years ago
Thank you, I have just joined the group. But it will take awhile for me to get used to exactly how to post and use the system. I am not really angry with the most conservative posters here (in fact I sometimes even agree with their views), just the over all tone of their quite often vitriol filled posts. After awhile, this kind of thing gets to you, not only do you no longer even wish to post yourself, you no longer even wish to even just lurk about and or even read their posts! I have no trouble imagining that this site has lost quite a few truly excellent posters here as a result. I know that I have been on some other comment boards in the past where this has happened also, and in truth it saddens me more than it makes me angry.
I do remember once stumbling onto a discussion board that was truly fantastic. It was centered on JRR Tolkien’s excellent works (The Lord of The Ring series for instance). The people there quite often disagreed strongly on various aspects of the Middle Earth stories, but were always kind, considerate, and even compassionate with each other!! Unfortunately I was too stupefied to keep the URL, and so lost contact. Oh well!!