So long old pal -- Monsieur Froggie has promised to take good care of you. He says there ain't nothin' like a good horse. le Burgaire Cheval Maison Froggie
Selective breeding is not the same as genetic engineering. And beyond the unknown results, biological and ecological, there are obvious economic (monopoly promoting) effects.
“GMO’s are hardly as safe as you think. Or needed as the produces keep telling us.”
I’ll wager you five years’ study of molecular biology that I know more about it than you do.
More seriously, don’t conflate Monsanto and GMO. The two are not the same. GMOs are more often developed by independent academic teams to address very real needs – for example, drought- or salt-resistant crops, crops which resist specific diseases like the Ug99 wheat rust, or that don’t need pesticides at all. What most people actually have a problem with, and might I add for good reason, is actually the Monsanto business model. (And for the record, Monsanto really do suck.)
A lot of the scare stories you hear about GMOs causing tumors in rats and things like that – quite honestly, the “science” behind those stories, isn’t. The experiments fall apart into junk as soon as you look closely (like, for example, the recent “tumors in rats” study was done in a line of rats bred specifically to form tumors, they didn’t record details of the diets, and rats were switched between groups partway through. That’s not an experiment, that’s an excuse for a conclusion).
Believe me, I would take it seriously if I saw something to take seriously, because I am a very big believer in the Law Of Unintended Consequences; but mostly I see are propaganda exercises by people who have already made up their minds that GMO Is Teh Ebil. I can’t work with that.
fritzoid Premium Member about 11 years ago
A real cowboy would shed no tears.“Never name your horse. Someday you may have to eat it.”
pirate227 about 11 years ago
sacré bleu!
Michael Peterson Premium Member about 11 years ago
I like a strong opinion, but “M. Froggie” crosses a line. I wonder how many other ethnic slurs the editor would have let pass?
rini1946 about 11 years ago
I was under impression that the ate horse meat in europe.
Yontrop about 11 years ago
Oh, I guess that should be “Big Mac (registered trademark symbol)”
charliekane about 11 years ago
My ancestry is German, with a wee bit of Polish about the hips thighs and belly.
In another setting, if the window read cuisine Kraut, I would not be offended.
BTW, how many Polocks does it take to . . .
HenryPercy about 11 years ago
You know the French get pretty caustic poking fun at Americans. It doesn’t much bother me
38lowell about 11 years ago
More than one country is eating horses-mostly from the USA.Will dogs be next?Then…?US.
Yontrop about 11 years ago
Selective breeding is not the same as genetic engineering. And beyond the unknown results, biological and ecological, there are obvious economic (monopoly promoting) effects.
lbatik about 11 years ago
“GMO’s are hardly as safe as you think. Or needed as the produces keep telling us.”
I’ll wager you five years’ study of molecular biology that I know more about it than you do.
More seriously, don’t conflate Monsanto and GMO. The two are not the same. GMOs are more often developed by independent academic teams to address very real needs – for example, drought- or salt-resistant crops, crops which resist specific diseases like the Ug99 wheat rust, or that don’t need pesticides at all. What most people actually have a problem with, and might I add for good reason, is actually the Monsanto business model. (And for the record, Monsanto really do suck.)
A lot of the scare stories you hear about GMOs causing tumors in rats and things like that – quite honestly, the “science” behind those stories, isn’t. The experiments fall apart into junk as soon as you look closely (like, for example, the recent “tumors in rats” study was done in a line of rats bred specifically to form tumors, they didn’t record details of the diets, and rats were switched between groups partway through. That’s not an experiment, that’s an excuse for a conclusion).
Believe me, I would take it seriously if I saw something to take seriously, because I am a very big believer in the Law Of Unintended Consequences; but mostly I see are propaganda exercises by people who have already made up their minds that GMO Is Teh Ebil. I can’t work with that.
Kim0158 Premium Member about 11 years ago
This was just a waste of ink.