How about the fact that, with all his nationalization of industry, his country is still a povert-stricken third world country. If he’d have spent more time actually working on problems, and less time talking “for show”, he might have made substantial progress.
No big fan of Chavez, but it’s unrestrained robber baron capitalism that makes people like Chavez and Castro necessary. When all the money goes to the top 1% year after year, eventually the poor have nothing to lose. Health care in the slums of Caracas is something that Venezuela could always have afforded, and Chavez was the first leader to actually do something about it. He was hugely popular, and would have continued winning the majority for a lot longer if he’d lasted.
Chavez’ PEOPLE did not have money. And if some commentors had actually read my first post, they would see that I did not say he had nothing to answer for. As to the coup, read some history, and listen to/read more than just Bush’s right wing sycophants. Also read the book " Disaster Capitalism" for the MANY reasons we are looked on with suspicion in Latin America.
The sulfur comment had to do with GWB, but I believe it was not in the way the posters have mentioned.
On some occasion while GWB was still in the White House, Chavez spoke directly after him at the podium at the UN. When he got to the podium, he remarked that it smelled like sulfur, with the implication that the smell was left over from the fact that Bush had just been standing there. I think that’s the basis for Mr. Ariail’s reference.
Neither he nor GWB did a great deal of good for the world. Deciding who was worse is not very important, in my opinion.
At least Pat Robertson finally had an answer to one of his fatwas, although he had originally challenged the US armed forces to go and get him, in contrast to his asking God to kill a Supreme Court justice or two….
When Hugo Chavez was elected in 1998 in Venezuela the per capita income was $2,858, today it’s $12,568. ………..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
It was the fact that British royalty considered even the most educated American colonist to be “revolting” and treated them with such arrogance that Americans decided to risk everything and started a revolution.Sadly, the nobility of Wall Street and the 9% of Americans who hold 90% of the wealth consider most of us to be equally revolting. Respectfully,C.
Tue Elung-Jensen about 11 years ago
So because he made a comment about Bush he should be in hell?
edward thomas Premium Member about 11 years ago
How about the fact that, with all his nationalization of industry, his country is still a povert-stricken third world country. If he’d have spent more time actually working on problems, and less time talking “for show”, he might have made substantial progress.
edward thomas Premium Member about 11 years ago
I don’t blame him for his comment on Bush. Considering we gave tacit approval to the 2002 coup, he does have an ax to grind.
ARodney about 11 years ago
No big fan of Chavez, but it’s unrestrained robber baron capitalism that makes people like Chavez and Castro necessary. When all the money goes to the top 1% year after year, eventually the poor have nothing to lose. Health care in the slums of Caracas is something that Venezuela could always have afforded, and Chavez was the first leader to actually do something about it. He was hugely popular, and would have continued winning the majority for a lot longer if he’d lasted.
edward thomas Premium Member about 11 years ago
Chavez’ PEOPLE did not have money. And if some commentors had actually read my first post, they would see that I did not say he had nothing to answer for. As to the coup, read some history, and listen to/read more than just Bush’s right wing sycophants. Also read the book " Disaster Capitalism" for the MANY reasons we are looked on with suspicion in Latin America.
edward thomas Premium Member about 11 years ago
And read some history as to why we SHOULD be looked on with derision by native Hawaiians!
I Play One On TV about 11 years ago
The sulfur comment had to do with GWB, but I believe it was not in the way the posters have mentioned.
On some occasion while GWB was still in the White House, Chavez spoke directly after him at the podium at the UN. When he got to the podium, he remarked that it smelled like sulfur, with the implication that the smell was left over from the fact that Bush had just been standing there. I think that’s the basis for Mr. Ariail’s reference.
Neither he nor GWB did a great deal of good for the world. Deciding who was worse is not very important, in my opinion.
At least Pat Robertson finally had an answer to one of his fatwas, although he had originally challenged the US armed forces to go and get him, in contrast to his asking God to kill a Supreme Court justice or two….
feverjr Premium Member about 11 years ago
When Hugo Chavez was elected in 1998 in Venezuela the per capita income was $2,858, today it’s $12,568. ………..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
chazandru about 11 years ago
It was the fact that British royalty considered even the most educated American colonist to be “revolting” and treated them with such arrogance that Americans decided to risk everything and started a revolution.Sadly, the nobility of Wall Street and the 9% of Americans who hold 90% of the wealth consider most of us to be equally revolting. Respectfully,C.