Why spend the money? We already have a system to disenfranchise voters by cancellation of their votes through the casting of illegitimate ballots, which Mort obviously prefers.
Study up, Brass Orchid. There is no evidence of widespread casting of illegitimate ballots. It is a Republican fantasy invented to justify laws that disenfranchise legitimate voters, especially those who tend to vote Democratic.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. You’d probably put that down to voter fraud too. It’s about as real.Documented voter fraud is vanishingly small – and several states that have passed voter ID laws to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands, if not millions, have investigated, and confirmed that is so. But in Pennsylvania, despite investigations confirming voter fraud is virtually non-existent, for example, the GOP have boasted voter ID laws there will deliver the state for them. Hard to deny that’s the purpose when party officials boast publicly about it!
There is a reason that some (all?) Republicans wish to limit democracy. Democracy is a concept that only works on a very small scale, and for a limited time. The founding fathers knew this, and knew of the other problems that democracies have, that is why they set up this country as a democratic republic.-——As a country we should stop with the exportation of “democracy” as the be all and end all of government. Government is a necessary evil and it must be kept in check by the people. It is exceedingly difficult to keep government in check once it starts paying out largesse from the public treasury, as the voters receiving the largesse have a vested interest in keeping in power those who support further expansion of the same.-——We need a return to republican (small “r”) ideals and a move away from democratic (small “d”) activities. Oft quoted, still relevant: -—-“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” - Attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville AND to Alexander Tytler (originality is the fine art of forgetting where you heard something --me).
BE THIS GUY over 11 years ago
Why are you voicing your anger to someone who can’t do anything about it?
Brass Orchid Premium Member over 11 years ago
Why spend the money? We already have a system to disenfranchise voters by cancellation of their votes through the casting of illegitimate ballots, which Mort obviously prefers.
indybend Premium Member over 11 years ago
Study up, Brass Orchid. There is no evidence of widespread casting of illegitimate ballots. It is a Republican fantasy invented to justify laws that disenfranchise legitimate voters, especially those who tend to vote Democratic.
William Bednar Premium Member over 11 years ago
Amen to that!
markjoseph125 over 11 years ago
Short answer: The Reichpubliscums aren’t interested in democracy; they’re interested in power.
Greg Johnston over 11 years ago
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. You’d probably put that down to voter fraud too. It’s about as real.Documented voter fraud is vanishingly small – and several states that have passed voter ID laws to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands, if not millions, have investigated, and confirmed that is so. But in Pennsylvania, despite investigations confirming voter fraud is virtually non-existent, for example, the GOP have boasted voter ID laws there will deliver the state for them. Hard to deny that’s the purpose when party officials boast publicly about it!
krbuza over 11 years ago
There is a reason that some (all?) Republicans wish to limit democracy. Democracy is a concept that only works on a very small scale, and for a limited time. The founding fathers knew this, and knew of the other problems that democracies have, that is why they set up this country as a democratic republic.-——As a country we should stop with the exportation of “democracy” as the be all and end all of government. Government is a necessary evil and it must be kept in check by the people. It is exceedingly difficult to keep government in check once it starts paying out largesse from the public treasury, as the voters receiving the largesse have a vested interest in keeping in power those who support further expansion of the same.-——We need a return to republican (small “r”) ideals and a move away from democratic (small “d”) activities. Oft quoted, still relevant: -—-“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” - Attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville AND to Alexander Tytler (originality is the fine art of forgetting where you heard something --me).