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  1. Hiram Bingham

    Hiram Bingham said, 2 months ago

    Moderate Muslims throughout the Middle East are rising up and banding together to defend themselves against the threat of ISIS.


    So here’s your choice, America. Support their efforts and gain their friendship, or go in there with guns blazing as you usually do and turn all sides against you again.

  2. The Wolf In Your Midst

    The Wolf In Your Midst said, 2 months ago

    “To lump every Muslim into the “Hate America religious fanatic” group is counter-productive.”

    But it feeds nicely into their “we have to destroy them or they’ll destroy us” religious mania that’s fomenting right here in the US.

  3. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, 2 months ago

    Inter – mission? Oh, nonsense. You know, the first mission was totally accomplished. Our president at the time told us so. We were treated as liberators. Freedom and democracy were on the March. Terrorism was in its last throes. And it was glorious. Glorious.
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    No, this is a totally new problem, totally unrelated to what went on before. And the great thing is that it’s, you know, all Obama’s fault.
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    And, if we all just hate Obama enough, the problem will just go away. Just like every other problem.

  4. TripleAxel

    TripleAxel said, 2 months ago

    @braindead08

    “You know, the first mission was totally accomplished. Our president at the time told us so. "
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    That is indeed what the President Obama in effect said in 2011, claiming credit for the condition of Iraq. In this he was backed up by his Vice President, who predicted President Obama would be able to point to Iraq’s stable government as one of his greatest accomplishments.
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    Given that the Obama administration was so happy enough with the state of Iraq in 2011 I am inclined to assign it a significant amount of responsibility for the more recent decline in that country at the hands of a group President Obama knew of but dismissed as the “JV team.”
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    I don’t hate President Obama. On a personal level I kind of like the guy. But he needs to acknowledge (at least to himself) the mistakes he has made in Iraq and take vigorous corrective steps. His recent airstrikes against ISIS are a step in the right direction – hopefully that will not be the limit of his activity.

  5. Grazy Llamas

    Grazy Llamas said, 2 months ago

    Bis! BIs! Encore! Encore!

  6. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 2 months ago

    It would be at least Act III, and that’s just since ’91, ignoring our interference to first create Iraq after WW I, install Faisal as king, then double-cross him, which seems U.S. strategy, just like with Ho after WW II…

  7. old1953

    old1953 said, 2 months ago

    @TripleAxel

    Ok, I’m kinda stupid here. Please point to the mistakes MADE BY OBAMA in Iraq. Don’t point to Maliki’s mistakes, or Bush’s mistakes or Bremer’s mistakes, those are all legion. I want mistakes made by B.H.Obama that were due to decisions he made freely and without being forced by someone else, that were his mistakes.

    We will assume at the outset that Obama is not a fairy tale demigod and cannot force heads of state to sign documents they clearly do not intend to sign. That out of the way, what are his mistakes?

  8. TripleAxel

    TripleAxel said, 2 months ago

    @old1953

    Here’s an article that addresses some of the President’s most critical missteps:
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    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/380810/disaster-his-own-making-charles-krauthammer
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    And here’s another article that discusses these points in further detail:
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    www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/06/why-obama-owns-iraq.php
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    There are other areas where the President’s missteps have had consequences (which are now being imposed upon the Iraqi people) but these articles should give you a general sense of the opposing point of view on this matter.

  9. masterskrain

    masterskrain GoComics PRO Member said, 2 months ago

    We CAN’T forget Poppy Bush’s “war”, so it’s at LEAST Act IV now.

  10. Zuhlamon

    Zuhlamon said, 2 months ago

    Pundits from right-wing sites as proof of Obama culpability in their op-eds. Some proof.

  11. old1953

    old1953 said, 2 months ago

    @Zuhlamon

    I asked for his errors, not editorials pontificating about worthless Obummer.

  12. old1953

    old1953 said, 2 months ago

    For this I wasted 20 minutes coming back here. The only actual “error” Obama has committed in the Middle East that was his and his alone was assuming that Maliki would actually shape up after Maliki insisted the US pull out. Instead he got worse. Nothing he could do about it of course, but that’s why he was saying the government would be stable – he thought Maliki would realize he was committing suicide. Obama underestimated Maliki’s stupidity. Of course, so did a lot of other people.

    A big piece of the trouble in the MidEast has been Iran constantly trying to stir up Iraq Shiites against the Sunni’s.

  13. old1953

    old1953 said, 2 months ago

    To claim, as the Kraut does, that Obama could somehow have reached a “compromise” with Maliki is just ignoring the facts, that Maliki was kowtowing to Iran long before Obama took office. Hell, he was screwing with Bush on live TV by pretending to sign papers that he actually didn’t sign! Look it up, I guarantee you that happened!

  14. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, 2 months ago

    @TripleAxel

    I’ll respond to your sources rather than dismiss them as “right wing sites”.

    Krauthammer has given his unreserved endorsement to pretty much every possible military action since the mid 80s. Krauthammer suggests we should have maintained our occupation of Iraq, despite the fact that large majorities of Americans & Iraqis wanted it to end. Obama played the cards that he was dealt with & any sane Commander in Chief would look at those cards & conclude that it was time to fold.

    Krauthammer insists that there were no Al-Qaeda in Iraq in 2009. Only fools believed that the clans who were temporarily bought off by American cash & bullets were going to be loyal to a Shia run Iraq. That’s the crux of the matter: Bush made the mistake of believing Maliki would not inevitably be looking to Iran for support. Of course, any Shiite leader in Iraq would need to be on very good terms with Iran. Given that, it would be impossible for any Shiite leader of Iraq to gain the loyalty of Sunni Iraqis, unless they were allowed to keep most of the preferences they enjoyed under Saddam. Politically, there was no accommodation that either side would peacefully accept.

    Your second source cites a much more interesting source that goes into a lot more detail, though maybe a long read for some. Also, it is an opinion piece & should be viewed as such. What We Left Behind

    It’s hard to blame put much blame on Obama for the breakdown in Iraq. The American people were done with the occupation. If Obama staked his Presidency on keeping our troops there, Romney could have won the election in 2012 with five words: “I’ll bring our troops home.” Of course, since Obama made the promise to withdraw, Romney was free to hedge his bets.

    Here is what Krauthammer, Mirengoff & every other armchair general who says we should have maintained a major presence in Iraq misses: whether we stayed another year or 25 years, the Sunnis & Shiites were looking for a showdown. All we have done since setting foot in Iraq is alienate both sides. Unless we, as a nation, were willing to lose thousands of lives every year to keep the cauldron from boiling over, this was going to happen.

    As far as the threat of the “Islamic State”, so far they have captured vast swaths of desert. Now that they are trying to push into Shiite & Kurdish homelands, they have stalled. If you want to prevent ISIS from turning into a serious threat, you’ll do better by making sure our “allies” in the Persian Gulf stop funding them.

  15. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, 2 months ago

    “Unless we, as a nation, were willing to lose thousands of lives every year to keep the cauldron from boiling over, this was going to happen.”

    Footnote: Look up the British & Ottoman experiences over the last seven centuries with maintaining order in the region. They only maintained order at the cost of significant casualties.

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