Why must you feel the need to get nasty? We are having a discussion. Can it not be a disagreement in a gentlemenly way and not deteroiate into mud slinging? Is this your plan?
As for the links, again I will say it as plainly as I can. The BBC article shows VIOLENT crime went UP 5%. Is this not a true statistic?
In the link to the Home Office, I am talking about the “British Crime Survey” that is below what you speak of. It clearly states the two statistics I posted before. Are these not also true statistics?
Again, I read the report from the Home Office. They clearly state that the 5% increase in crime was “insignificant”, yet that represents a large number of incidents.
To your quote “If it does increase this year (still way below 1995 levels) what the hell has that got to do with a gun ban imposed in the 1990’s?”:
That IS my point. Vilent crime and firearm ownership have NO correlation. Gun banners tout that people will be more safe and less likely to be victims if guns are banned. Yet, in the UK violent crime is increasing (by 5% as stated by the Home Office) and the chance of being a victim has increased also. This directly refutes the concept of a safre society without firearms. My point, and the pooint of others who have posted is that people will commit violent crimes aginst their fellow citizens with or without firearms. The difference is that when law abiding citizens are allowed to own and carry firearms for their own self defense, criminal activity against the person decreases and has not risen in 10 years (here in the US). In fact, violent crime is at its lowest point EVER since statistics have been kept by the DOJ. So the argument that guns are a major part of violent crime is, by the statistics in both the US and the UK, invalid. Violent crime rates show no correlation to firearm ownership.
Do you not see that in the statistics? Do you not understand what I and others have been saying? Or do you choose not to see it?
Again, I respect your position that you do not wish to own or carry a firearm. That IS your right. Why though do you argue to take that right away from others? You still have not answered that quetion in any of your posts. What is your reasoning for not wanting anyone to own or carry a firearm? I am still curious to read your answer to that. And, should you respond, would you please attempt to refrain from telling me to “go play in traffic” or some other derogatory statement? I have not tried to degrade or intimidate you, and I only request the same in return.
April 11, 2017