They sure were trying again this afternoon when I tuned into the House version of C-SPAN. Not to mention how many times I’ve seen the same ad here in Florida trying to get people to urge their Representative to do the same thing.
Another example of Republicans ‘laser-like focus on jobs’.-Protecting the wealth of the rich and anti abortion are Republicans’ only agenda items (besides defeating Obama).
“Repubs will always vote to reduce spending…”-You’ve forgotten the George W.Bush years?-“and reduce taxes.”-You’ve forgotten his dad, G.H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, etc?
A revolution would require more effort than just griping about things we don’t like and haven’t taken the time to understand. It’d also take too much time away from our reality TV, our video games, our circuses (hey, where’d my bread go?….)
Republicans vote to reduce INCOME taxes.-When Reagan was governor of California he RAISED sales taxes 25%.-Ron Paul wants to institute a national sales tax.
It’s only talk about reducing spending and taxes. Bush spent like a drunken sailor and put it on our credit card. Now it’s time to pay up and the Reeps want to raise taxes on the poor and middle class. Go figure(unless of course they are secretly working for the top1%? Nah!)
Every republican president since the 60s has increased the size of the federal government exponentially over what their democratic counterparts have done. Yet they always say they are against that very thing. Just like they say they don’t spend when their records (if actually looked at by intelligent voters) show they do the exact opposite. Talk is cheap, don’t listen to the candidates review their and their parties records!
Warren Buffett, in an interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling:“I could end the deficit in 5 minutes,” he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election.The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971…before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc.Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land…all because of public pressure.Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.In three days, most people in the United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.Congressional Reform Act of 20111. No Tenure / No Pension.A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12.The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen.Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.
Wow, worth sharing for sure. Another way would be to let the tax cuts for the very wealthy to expire. That would get it down very quick. Meanwhile the republican congress has banned abortions over 90 times, and keeps “repealing” the ACA, and saying it’s wrong. Most people who don’t like it don’t even know what is in it. Once they find out, 63% like it a lot.No matter what faux noise says, it isn’t “the biggest tax ever”. The penalty would only affect about 2% of the population, and the insurance would be on a sliding scale, and, as it says, affordable.And taxpayers won’t have to keep paying the medical bills of all the uninsured anymore. that adds up to a big chunk of the tax we have been paying for years.
Signing a bill into law is a vote for it, same as voting-with-your-feet is a form of voting. A budget proposal, within the purview of POTUS, is also a form of voting.
I notice that instead of providing evidence to back up your claim, you first engaged in semantics, and now you try snark. Neither will make your statement any more true than it was when you first proposed it. Of course, since you can’t support your assertion, semantics and snark are all you have….
OK, I’ll play you’re little game, and give instances.-Some Republicans who didn’t “always vote to reduce spending reduce taxes”:=Jo Bonner- Alabama, Pat Meehan- Pennsylvania, Steve LaTourett- Ohio, Carlie Bass- New Hampshire, Mike Simpson- Idaho, Frank Lucas- Oklahoma, Peter King- New York, Michael Grimm- New York, Robert Dold- Illinois-http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/06/club-for-growth-knocks-republicans-over-spending-votes-126147.html&Don Young- Alaska-http://archive.redstate.com/stories/archived/don_young_votes_for_tax_increase\-Susan Collins- Maine-http://bangordailynews.com/2011/12/01/politics/collins-voices-support-for-increased-tax-on-the-wealthy-to-fund-payroll-tax-cut/-Newt Gingrich- Georgia-http://www.clubforgrowth.org/whitepapers/?subsec=137&id=903
(1) President Obama said his health care law would not raise taxes on the middle class. False. (2) President Obama said healthcare premiums would go down if the law passed. False. (3) President Obama said if you like the health care plan you have, you can keep it. False.He also can’t add. Now it’s going to cost 2.6 Trillion.The IRS is now planning to hire 1,000’s to implement this tax.
If you’re dumb enough to support this, then you’re just a sheep eating at the MSNBC or CNN trough.
And you’re just a sheep eating at the Faux News trough. Obama will only raise taxes on the 1% making over 200,000 a year. The rest of us will be fine. My healthcare premiums have already decreased 5% in the last year and so far I am keeping it. 1000 new IRS members are 1000 new jobs. Why don’t you want people to have jobs?
“The Repubs percentage for voting for reduced spending is much better than Dems.”-If that’s true, you must have something to support it. What are the percentages, or are you just making that up like your first statement under this cartoon? Yes, pork goes both ways, but that doesn’t excuse you giving a pass to the tribe you like. And the pork IS a huge issue. What are you trying to get us to focus on?
I have looked at the club for growth. Are you referring to something recent, or something that’s established history? Either way, you should give me a link or someway I can check behind you.-You “…try to avoid “absolutes” unless I trying to make a point…”, so your statement “Repubs will always vote to reduce spending and reduce taxes” was an exaggeration to prove…..what? That " Dems can only think of increasing some one else’s taxes"? Another absolute? What point is it supposed to be making for you?
The link you provided was cut off (Gocomics does that on the longer ones sometimes), so I wasn’t able to be sure I went to where you wanted me to look. But what I did find, from what your link suggested, was a grade based on one year. So you believe that getting religion since being voted out of office in ’08 means that “Repubs will always vote to reduce spending and reduce taxes” ? History disagrees with you. If you look at voting records, time and time again, Republicans (whether in Congress, the Presidency, Governors offices, or State Government) are no more thrifty than Democrats. They may spend on different things, but their dollars-spent is consistently similar to that of their partners across the aisle. If the current attitude about spending holds up, cycle-after-cycle, including when Republicans are in the majority and Oval Office, then I will happy to declare them as the party that reduces spending, but that doesn’t change history.-“You changed “seems” and added “can” ”-The word ‘seems’ doesn’t appear in any of your posts (or mine, or the ‘toon, for that matter), so what does that accusation refer to?-You can call “O-care” a tax, penalty, wealth-distribution, or whatever you want, no matter to me. It doesn’t change the fact that your first post was blatantly wrong.
My mistake, I didn’t read your previous posts closely enough. But you need to look at them too: I posted, word-for-word, what you said, starting after the word ‘like’. Seems we both need to read more closely.-You do need to decide whether you want to support the Republicans-spend-less-than-Democrats thing. Your arguments on that have been particularly weak.
O-Care is a very large tax increase."-Technically: False. The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is a federal statute, governing many aspects of how health insurance will be issued, administered, and otherwise regulated. In doing this, there are provisions for collecting money to run the system, as well as penalties, which are together all considered taxes. Since you’re focusing on the monetary part, I’ll overlook the substitution, and answer “True” for the purposes of your line of inquiry. Please continue.
Congratulations, using a very specific time period, and one particular piece of legislation, you’ve proved your point. Not that anyone could use a narrowly defined, specific chain of events to prove that all Republicans are crooks. That type of ad hoc reasoning wouldn’t be “blatantly wrong” if it was applied to the right wing at all. Hmmm, I wonder if it would be immoral to judge who you are in such a manner….
“I think that we already established your judgement is flawed…”-Only in your imagination, and only to dismiss that I called you on your broad attack using selective evidence. What’s been established is that you aren’t willing to admit that you’re wrong.
“I would suggest you read more about the use of hyperbolic statements as a form of satire…”-OK, I will. In the meantime, since I can’t seem to discern your true opinion on the subject, why don’t you tell me what you really meant. Please use simple, straightforward language so that I, a simple, straightforward (and apparently judgmental) person, can understand you clearly.
Dtroutma almost 12 years ago
Some elephants don’t remember, or get the point?
Ketira almost 12 years ago
They sure were trying again this afternoon when I tuned into the House version of C-SPAN. Not to mention how many times I’ve seen the same ad here in Florida trying to get people to urge their Representative to do the same thing.
braindead Premium Member almost 12 years ago
Another example of Republicans ‘laser-like focus on jobs’.-Protecting the wealth of the rich and anti abortion are Republicans’ only agenda items (besides defeating Obama).
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
“Repubs will always vote to reduce spending…”-You’ve forgotten the George W.Bush years?-“and reduce taxes.”-You’ve forgotten his dad, G.H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, etc?
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
A revolution would require more effort than just griping about things we don’t like and haven’t taken the time to understand. It’d also take too much time away from our reality TV, our video games, our circuses (hey, where’d my bread go?….)
braindead Premium Member almost 12 years ago
Republicans vote to reduce INCOME taxes.-When Reagan was governor of California he RAISED sales taxes 25%.-Ron Paul wants to institute a national sales tax.
joe vignone almost 12 years ago
It’s only talk about reducing spending and taxes. Bush spent like a drunken sailor and put it on our credit card. Now it’s time to pay up and the Reeps want to raise taxes on the poor and middle class. Go figure(unless of course they are secretly working for the top1%? Nah!)
rockngolfer almost 12 years ago
Sarah Palin warned us about Death Panels, and here we have Boehner and his henchmen trying to take away our insurance.
STLDan almost 12 years ago
Every republican president since the 60s has increased the size of the federal government exponentially over what their democratic counterparts have done. Yet they always say they are against that very thing. Just like they say they don’t spend when their records (if actually looked at by intelligent voters) show they do the exact opposite. Talk is cheap, don’t listen to the candidates review their and their parties records!
tinsleyrc almost 12 years ago
Warren Buffitts congressional fix:
Warren Buffett, in an interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling:“I could end the deficit in 5 minutes,” he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election.The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971…before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc.Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land…all because of public pressure.Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.In three days, most people in the United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.Congressional Reform Act of 20111. No Tenure / No Pension.A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12.The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen.Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.
pam Miner almost 12 years ago
Wow, worth sharing for sure. Another way would be to let the tax cuts for the very wealthy to expire. That would get it down very quick. Meanwhile the republican congress has banned abortions over 90 times, and keeps “repealing” the ACA, and saying it’s wrong. Most people who don’t like it don’t even know what is in it. Once they find out, 63% like it a lot.No matter what faux noise says, it isn’t “the biggest tax ever”. The penalty would only affect about 2% of the population, and the insurance would be on a sliding scale, and, as it says, affordable.And taxpayers won’t have to keep paying the medical bills of all the uninsured anymore. that adds up to a big chunk of the tax we have been paying for years.
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
Signing a bill into law is a vote for it, same as voting-with-your-feet is a form of voting. A budget proposal, within the purview of POTUS, is also a form of voting.
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
I notice that instead of providing evidence to back up your claim, you first engaged in semantics, and now you try snark. Neither will make your statement any more true than it was when you first proposed it. Of course, since you can’t support your assertion, semantics and snark are all you have….
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
OK, I’ll play you’re little game, and give instances.-Some Republicans who didn’t “always vote to reduce spending reduce taxes”:=Jo Bonner- Alabama, Pat Meehan- Pennsylvania, Steve LaTourett- Ohio, Carlie Bass- New Hampshire, Mike Simpson- Idaho, Frank Lucas- Oklahoma, Peter King- New York, Michael Grimm- New York, Robert Dold- Illinois-http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/06/club-for-growth-knocks-republicans-over-spending-votes-126147.html&Don Young- Alaska-http://archive.redstate.com/stories/archived/don_young_votes_for_tax_increase\-Susan Collins- Maine-http://bangordailynews.com/2011/12/01/politics/collins-voices-support-for-increased-tax-on-the-wealthy-to-fund-payroll-tax-cut/-Newt Gingrich- Georgia-http://www.clubforgrowth.org/whitepapers/?subsec=137&id=903
sw10mm almost 12 years ago
(1) President Obama said his health care law would not raise taxes on the middle class. False. (2) President Obama said healthcare premiums would go down if the law passed. False. (3) President Obama said if you like the health care plan you have, you can keep it. False.He also can’t add. Now it’s going to cost 2.6 Trillion.The IRS is now planning to hire 1,000’s to implement this tax.
If you’re dumb enough to support this, then you’re just a sheep eating at the MSNBC or CNN trough.
ObamaIsDaMan almost 12 years ago
And you’re just a sheep eating at the Faux News trough. Obama will only raise taxes on the 1% making over 200,000 a year. The rest of us will be fine. My healthcare premiums have already decreased 5% in the last year and so far I am keeping it. 1000 new IRS members are 1000 new jobs. Why don’t you want people to have jobs?
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
“The Repubs percentage for voting for reduced spending is much better than Dems.”-If that’s true, you must have something to support it. What are the percentages, or are you just making that up like your first statement under this cartoon? Yes, pork goes both ways, but that doesn’t excuse you giving a pass to the tribe you like. And the pork IS a huge issue. What are you trying to get us to focus on?
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
I have looked at the club for growth. Are you referring to something recent, or something that’s established history? Either way, you should give me a link or someway I can check behind you.-You “…try to avoid “absolutes” unless I trying to make a point…”, so your statement “Repubs will always vote to reduce spending and reduce taxes” was an exaggeration to prove…..what? That " Dems can only think of increasing some one else’s taxes"? Another absolute? What point is it supposed to be making for you?
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
The link you provided was cut off (Gocomics does that on the longer ones sometimes), so I wasn’t able to be sure I went to where you wanted me to look. But what I did find, from what your link suggested, was a grade based on one year. So you believe that getting religion since being voted out of office in ’08 means that “Repubs will always vote to reduce spending and reduce taxes” ? History disagrees with you. If you look at voting records, time and time again, Republicans (whether in Congress, the Presidency, Governors offices, or State Government) are no more thrifty than Democrats. They may spend on different things, but their dollars-spent is consistently similar to that of their partners across the aisle. If the current attitude about spending holds up, cycle-after-cycle, including when Republicans are in the majority and Oval Office, then I will happy to declare them as the party that reduces spending, but that doesn’t change history.-“You changed “seems” and added “can” ”-The word ‘seems’ doesn’t appear in any of your posts (or mine, or the ‘toon, for that matter), so what does that accusation refer to?-You can call “O-care” a tax, penalty, wealth-distribution, or whatever you want, no matter to me. It doesn’t change the fact that your first post was blatantly wrong.
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
My mistake, I didn’t read your previous posts closely enough. But you need to look at them too: I posted, word-for-word, what you said, starting after the word ‘like’. Seems we both need to read more closely.-You do need to decide whether you want to support the Republicans-spend-less-than-Democrats thing. Your arguments on that have been particularly weak.
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
“True or False —
O-Care is a very large tax increase."-Technically: False. The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is a federal statute, governing many aspects of how health insurance will be issued, administered, and otherwise regulated. In doing this, there are provisions for collecting money to run the system, as well as penalties, which are together all considered taxes. Since you’re focusing on the monetary part, I’ll overlook the substitution, and answer “True” for the purposes of your line of inquiry. Please continue.
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
Correct, Obama is not a Republican, and I believe zero of them voted for it. Please continue.
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
Congratulations, using a very specific time period, and one particular piece of legislation, you’ve proved your point. Not that anyone could use a narrowly defined, specific chain of events to prove that all Republicans are crooks. That type of ad hoc reasoning wouldn’t be “blatantly wrong” if it was applied to the right wing at all. Hmmm, I wonder if it would be immoral to judge who you are in such a manner….
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
“I think that we already established your judgement is flawed…”-Only in your imagination, and only to dismiss that I called you on your broad attack using selective evidence. What’s been established is that you aren’t willing to admit that you’re wrong.
CasualBrowser almost 12 years ago
“I would suggest you read more about the use of hyperbolic statements as a form of satire…”-OK, I will. In the meantime, since I can’t seem to discern your true opinion on the subject, why don’t you tell me what you really meant. Please use simple, straightforward language so that I, a simple, straightforward (and apparently judgmental) person, can understand you clearly.