I believe ACORN needs to be investigated, this appalling scandal has now reached three offices. (and the supervisor of each office should be fired, along with the workers.)
Their job is not to figure out how to help people scam or circumvent laws, regulations and tax codes. I don’t know that much about ACORN … I’ll have to read up
I prefix the following with the following: What I’m about to tell you is something I heard on the radio, and I can’t remember it well or even who I heard it from. And right now I’m too lazy to look it up and verify it, so I’m not even sure if I believe it. Maybe one of you can shed some light on it.
Anyway, the actual statement is: ACORN was founded from another organization who’s goal was to bring American government down by crippling it with welfare requests.
From what I saw in my fair city was that ACORN was registering members of the homeless society to vote in the Nov ‘08 election. I do walk through this one section of town twice daily , and did witness this part. Sounds good in theory at this point. From there, the accusations go that ACORN memebers went to the polls they registered these homeless people at, and voted for them. This I cannot verify firsthand. I do have a relative who stated to me that if this did accually occur, that the volunteers working the polls were actually the ones guilty of fraud for not validating the identity of the “registered “voters. The whole concept reeks to me. Any opinions on this?
senor, I looked at the two web sites mentioned in your post and it is certainly possible Rove and his minions are behind them. Remember, Rove once bragged to a report that “we’re the empire now,” referring to the right wing alliances in place since the impeachment of Clinton. (I posted his quote a couple of times before.) He told the reporter that the “reality-based journalists” were of no further consequence, because “the empire” could now create reality for everyone.
Rove and his minions are behind the scenes doing everything humanly possible to create a reality in which the Reps will pick up seats in 2010. That is their only goal at this time.
As far as Acorn, I applaud whoever caught them, they needed to be caught. And until a rigorous investigation takes place, they should receive no further federal money. You cannot take taxpayer funds and then use those funds to advise people on how not to pay taxes. Some heads need to roll and if the organization continues, it obviously needs oversight.
However, I’d like to see some enterprising folks occasionally do the same any non-profits receiving federal funds, from both sides of the political spectrum. It’s in effect a public service.
loco, Every county has the responsibility to set up their election procedures to try to prevent fraud. But I imagine attempting to vote fraudulently is a crime, I would think.
If you read my post above, I think ACORN needs to be thoroughly investigated based on the three videos that have come out so far.
The undercover videographers were two independent conservatives who learned from Michael Moore. So far three separate ACORN offices were exposed using the same trick.
In an article written by a National Review reporter he said ACORN’s founder Wade Rathke’s philosophy was “maximum eligible participation”. He was a follower of the vision that ” called upon activists to pack the welfare rolls to spread dependency, bankrupt the government and cause uprisings against the capitalist system”.
In a photo in today’s newspaper taken inside a ACORN office was a listing of the candidates they favored in next weeks primary. By law ACORN must be non-partisan. Yet, another law they broke.
That is SO not true. It’s all over CNN and every major print outlet I read has run articles on it immediately after the first video was aired. This isn’t a liberal/conservative issue. It’s a legal/illegal issue, and people of all political stripes are appalled.
harley, it’s been on CNN every day since 1st video dropped. sorry, it just isn’t only a Fox story
church, two responses for you on Beattie 9/10 re the profit margins for insurance industry. Second post is repeated here, cuz it’s significant.
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i re-looked at the two sites you posted.
http://biz.yahoo.com/p/sum_qpmd.html and one other
As I understand it, these profit margins are for stock price alone for a specific period if time. That does not represent the overall profits for the industry. It’s just the specific change in stock value for a period of time i can’t discern.
church wrote: Why are you forcing me to learn.
Because you seem like a smart person and learning is good.
The chart you linked to previously is ONLY about stock prices, that’s not the totality of a company’s profit. Plus, the chart could, at most, only represent one quarter of a year. BTW, did you notice that the 1st column ini the chart said “1 day price change %”? It could be just for one day, I tried to find more explanation for what it represented but there wasn’t any.
If I find some info from a very trusted independent source I’ll share it with you.
I used to hire small firms to monitor news programs for clients and compile them on a VHS (now it would be a DVD). Is that similar to what you’re doing now?
church I knew the line was in jest, that’s why I gave you a small kudo by saying you were smart. And I see you’ve made a couple of funnies in your post above too.
I do believe when information you post is not accurate, you don’t do so deliberately and you’re willing to acknowledge the error, which I appreciate.
re the Yahoo Finance link, I found two sites, both personal blogger sites, that used the same data found at the Yahoo link. One was a stock broker and he referred to the chart as stock prices for one quarter, which was more explanation than the Yahoo site had. (Please don’t ask me for the link, I didn’t keep it, I’ve got links for reference coming out of my ears.)
Re monitoring news programs for clients. The way it mostly worked for me was I would call the firm when a special event, or news conference happened and they would compile all the coverage. We would present it to client, or provide to the client with a report on broadcast coverage. This was when I worked for a PR firm or was a self-employed consultant.
If you’re looking for business, touching base with PR firms in your area might be good idea, because they may handle a wide range of clients and imagine they would do something similar to what I did unless they were so large they did it in-house. All they would be looking for is mentions of their client, especially when it was a result of their PR efforts.
I never worked for the DNC, though I did contract work a couple of times for CA Dem Party. (smile)
My guess is there are organizations that would monitor different news channels for inaccuracies of a certain sort, but have no idea how that would work. yes, I think you were snarking off, but it’s entirely possible that is being done.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
I believe ACORN needs to be investigated, this appalling scandal has now reached three offices. (and the supervisor of each office should be fired, along with the workers.)
Their job is not to figure out how to help people scam or circumvent laws, regulations and tax codes. I don’t know that much about ACORN … I’ll have to read up
brad.galloway over 14 years ago
I prefix the following with the following: What I’m about to tell you is something I heard on the radio, and I can’t remember it well or even who I heard it from. And right now I’m too lazy to look it up and verify it, so I’m not even sure if I believe it. Maybe one of you can shed some light on it. Anyway, the actual statement is: ACORN was founded from another organization who’s goal was to bring American government down by crippling it with welfare requests.
NorthCarolinian over 14 years ago
Even worse, ACORN is conducting the US Census. Courtesy of Obama.
Kosher71 over 14 years ago
The last I heard , from different sources , the census bureau dropped ACORN , but HUD was still working with them .
Loco80 over 14 years ago
From what I saw in my fair city was that ACORN was registering members of the homeless society to vote in the Nov ‘08 election. I do walk through this one section of town twice daily , and did witness this part. Sounds good in theory at this point. From there, the accusations go that ACORN memebers went to the polls they registered these homeless people at, and voted for them. This I cannot verify firsthand. I do have a relative who stated to me that if this did accually occur, that the volunteers working the polls were actually the ones guilty of fraud for not validating the identity of the “registered “voters. The whole concept reeks to me. Any opinions on this?
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
senor, I looked at the two web sites mentioned in your post and it is certainly possible Rove and his minions are behind them. Remember, Rove once bragged to a report that “we’re the empire now,” referring to the right wing alliances in place since the impeachment of Clinton. (I posted his quote a couple of times before.) He told the reporter that the “reality-based journalists” were of no further consequence, because “the empire” could now create reality for everyone.
Rove and his minions are behind the scenes doing everything humanly possible to create a reality in which the Reps will pick up seats in 2010. That is their only goal at this time.
As far as Acorn, I applaud whoever caught them, they needed to be caught. And until a rigorous investigation takes place, they should receive no further federal money. You cannot take taxpayer funds and then use those funds to advise people on how not to pay taxes. Some heads need to roll and if the organization continues, it obviously needs oversight.
However, I’d like to see some enterprising folks occasionally do the same any non-profits receiving federal funds, from both sides of the political spectrum. It’s in effect a public service.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
loco, Every county has the responsibility to set up their election procedures to try to prevent fraud. But I imagine attempting to vote fraudulently is a crime, I would think.
If you read my post above, I think ACORN needs to be thoroughly investigated based on the three videos that have come out so far.
GNWachs over 14 years ago
The undercover videographers were two independent conservatives who learned from Michael Moore. So far three separate ACORN offices were exposed using the same trick.
In an article written by a National Review reporter he said ACORN’s founder Wade Rathke’s philosophy was “maximum eligible participation”. He was a follower of the vision that ” called upon activists to pack the welfare rolls to spread dependency, bankrupt the government and cause uprisings against the capitalist system”.
In a photo in today’s newspaper taken inside a ACORN office was a listing of the candidates they favored in next weeks primary. By law ACORN must be non-partisan. Yet, another law they broke.
1GoComics over 14 years ago
One thing about those Acorns and the Dems … the Acorns don’t fall far from their Tree.
HUMPHRIES over 14 years ago
hq, only Fox has reported on this. My, my isn’t that something !
cdward over 14 years ago
striper, please cite the “child molester hate crimes bill” that passed into law.
GNWachs over 14 years ago
Congress must have also read it. They just pulled funding and dropped Acorn from census assistance.
It is a strange mind set I see here so frequently. First the MSM is not liberal but if it isn’t in the MSM it can’t be true.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
harley wrote: Only fox has reported on the story.
That is SO not true. It’s all over CNN and every major print outlet I read has run articles on it immediately after the first video was aired. This isn’t a liberal/conservative issue. It’s a legal/illegal issue, and people of all political stripes are appalled.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 14 years ago
Investigate ACORN.
But I do smell some Karl Rove behind it…
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
_CF_ you’re back. welcome.
harley, it’s been on CNN every day since 1st video dropped. sorry, it just isn’t only a Fox story
church, two responses for you on Beattie 9/10 re the profit margins for insurance industry. Second post is repeated here, cuz it’s significant. ——– i re-looked at the two sites you posted. http://biz.yahoo.com/p/sum_qpmd.html and one other
As I understand it, these profit margins are for stock price alone for a specific period if time. That does not represent the overall profits for the industry. It’s just the specific change in stock value for a period of time i can’t discern.
is that your understanding too?
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
church wrote: Why are you forcing me to learn. Because you seem like a smart person and learning is good.
The chart you linked to previously is ONLY about stock prices, that’s not the totality of a company’s profit. Plus, the chart could, at most, only represent one quarter of a year. BTW, did you notice that the 1st column ini the chart said “1 day price change %”? It could be just for one day, I tried to find more explanation for what it represented but there wasn’t any.
If I find some info from a very trusted independent source I’ll share it with you.
I used to hire small firms to monitor news programs for clients and compile them on a VHS (now it would be a DVD). Is that similar to what you’re doing now?
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
church I knew the line was in jest, that’s why I gave you a small kudo by saying you were smart. And I see you’ve made a couple of funnies in your post above too.
I do believe when information you post is not accurate, you don’t do so deliberately and you’re willing to acknowledge the error, which I appreciate.
re the Yahoo Finance link, I found two sites, both personal blogger sites, that used the same data found at the Yahoo link. One was a stock broker and he referred to the chart as stock prices for one quarter, which was more explanation than the Yahoo site had. (Please don’t ask me for the link, I didn’t keep it, I’ve got links for reference coming out of my ears.)
Re monitoring news programs for clients. The way it mostly worked for me was I would call the firm when a special event, or news conference happened and they would compile all the coverage. We would present it to client, or provide to the client with a report on broadcast coverage. This was when I worked for a PR firm or was a self-employed consultant.
If you’re looking for business, touching base with PR firms in your area might be good idea, because they may handle a wide range of clients and imagine they would do something similar to what I did unless they were so large they did it in-house. All they would be looking for is mentions of their client, especially when it was a result of their PR efforts.
I never worked for the DNC, though I did contract work a couple of times for CA Dem Party. (smile)
My guess is there are organizations that would monitor different news channels for inaccuracies of a certain sort, but have no idea how that would work. yes, I think you were snarking off, but it’s entirely possible that is being done.
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
senor, Stewart is an adroit and skilled humorist, probably the best we have at this time
believecommonsense over 14 years ago
why thank you, harley! what is SAT ?