They’re fighting over a rock. God is everywhere! Ironically, both Judaism and Islam are both rabid iconoclast religions; the only thing you should worship is the One Upstairs, not any rock or place or face or saint and yet, they have been fighting over a rock for decades.
Then again, there might be more to it than that like the Jews need for a place to call home after they have been bullied for centuries wherever they went. On the other hand, the land that they claim was someone else’s home before they came.
Is that an oxymoron ?
I thought that Faith just spewed out complete and unchanging from an Omniscient all knowing entity.
Please enlighten us . Evolved from and now to, what????
ralph; Yeah, wish some could see the world like that and concentrate on bouncing back instead of making war, but you gotta admit it’s pretty hard when you’ve been kicked out of it, with bsolutely no ressources and one of the biggest armies in the world bombs unarmed people…
oldlegodad71 says:
DHLEAKY, That is why faith is not static but grows as we see more of Gods handywork. We will never understand all, but we seek with open mind and receptive SOUL what the Spirit will impart (or not).
AS EVER, YOU DO NOT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
Evolved from and now to, what???
Good G0D, what convoluted reasoning, makes me glad to be an atheist.
HAPPY FESTIVUS !
Religions do not lead to peace. Hasn’t anyone been looking at the facts for these last ……hmmmm…..at least 4,000 years. The god concept and all it purveyors have brought us to where we are today, a world of hate and strife, with no end in sight. Our children will reap a bitter harvest.
“I thought that Faith just spewed out complete and unchanging from an Omniscient all knowing entity.
Please enlighten us . Evolved from and now to, what????”
PUH-LEEZE. Do you think the “god” being worshipped in America’s Mega-Churches is the same one I encountered in the Lutheran church 50 yrs ago? It’s all a cult of personality. People flock to the minister that tells them what they want to hear. From one Catholic church, there are now thousands of evolved splinter denominations that get obsessed with one line of scripture (the anti-gay conservatives, the pro-love liberals, the anit-abortion fanatics, etc)
{oh, I see,this was a sarcastic comment,dhleaky - you are as sceptical of religion as I am!}
There will never be Peace as long as all parties believe that THEIRS is the only true god. If we’d stop blaming our desires on the will of imaginary superheros and behaved rationally, perhaps THEN there might be some hope of Peace. (of course, Primates are not, by nature, peaceful rational creatures–explains so much about the human condition, moreso than the god fairytale)
CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 15 years ago
Then why is the place where he was born such a war hole now. sigh
CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 15 years ago
They’re fighting over a rock. God is everywhere! Ironically, both Judaism and Islam are both rabid iconoclast religions; the only thing you should worship is the One Upstairs, not any rock or place or face or saint and yet, they have been fighting over a rock for decades.
Then again, there might be more to it than that like the Jews need for a place to call home after they have been bullied for centuries wherever they went. On the other hand, the land that they claim was someone else’s home before they came.
ralphman over 15 years ago
Everywhere on the planet was someone elses home at some time or another.
dhleaky over 15 years ago
oldlegodad71 says: faith’s evolution.
Is that an oxymoron ? I thought that Faith just spewed out complete and unchanging from an Omniscient all knowing entity. Please enlighten us . Evolved from and now to, what????
CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 15 years ago
ralph; Yeah, wish some could see the world like that and concentrate on bouncing back instead of making war, but you gotta admit it’s pretty hard when you’ve been kicked out of it, with bsolutely no ressources and one of the biggest armies in the world bombs unarmed people…
dhleaky over 15 years ago
oldlegodad71 says: DHLEAKY, That is why faith is not static but grows as we see more of Gods handywork. We will never understand all, but we seek with open mind and receptive SOUL what the Spirit will impart (or not). AS EVER, YOU DO NOT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. Evolved from and now to, what??? Good G0D, what convoluted reasoning, makes me glad to be an atheist. HAPPY FESTIVUS !
HUMPHRIES over 15 years ago
DHL, to each his own … as I previously stated, please do not fault the faith by the actions of some of it’s hearlders.
Trogon2 over 15 years ago
Religions do not lead to peace. Hasn’t anyone been looking at the facts for these last ……hmmmm…..at least 4,000 years. The god concept and all it purveyors have brought us to where we are today, a world of hate and strife, with no end in sight. Our children will reap a bitter harvest.
HUMPHRIES over 15 years ago
fennac, well said …
joylederman over 15 years ago
“I thought that Faith just spewed out complete and unchanging from an Omniscient all knowing entity. Please enlighten us . Evolved from and now to, what????”
PUH-LEEZE. Do you think the “god” being worshipped in America’s Mega-Churches is the same one I encountered in the Lutheran church 50 yrs ago? It’s all a cult of personality. People flock to the minister that tells them what they want to hear. From one Catholic church, there are now thousands of evolved splinter denominations that get obsessed with one line of scripture (the anti-gay conservatives, the pro-love liberals, the anit-abortion fanatics, etc)
{oh, I see,this was a sarcastic comment,dhleaky - you are as sceptical of religion as I am!}
joylederman over 15 years ago
“Religions do not lead to peace. ”
There will never be Peace as long as all parties believe that THEIRS is the only true god. If we’d stop blaming our desires on the will of imaginary superheros and behaved rationally, perhaps THEN there might be some hope of Peace. (of course, Primates are not, by nature, peaceful rational creatures–explains so much about the human condition, moreso than the god fairytale)
HUMPHRIES over 15 years ago
Joy L … your observations , though true, do hurt. For me I think I’ll light a little candle rather than curse the darkness.
curiosity1 over 15 years ago
Sigh… The biggest problem I have with faith is that it precludes and occludes reason.
Here’s to 2009, may mankind leave the year slightly more thoughtful and reasonable than we enter it.