“Dedicated to the proposition that all progressive cowards–including Commanders-in-Chief from Hahvahd–always cut and run.”
Stay as long as you want: but you’d better start raising taxes to pay for it. You can’t fight wars against everyone in the world and lower taxes.
So how about cutting a check.
The right cheek doesn’t acknowledge that this was the “deal” set by Bush with Iraq for an exit date, that nobody thought could be met. That “combat troops” are pulling out while 50,000 “armed individuals with aggressive tendencies for response to active assaults on their persons, places or things” remain as either “advisors”, “teachers” ,or “targets”, does not mean anything was accomplished other than one more destroyed country with an even less stable government than before we entered.
If the previous government WAS indeed nasty and bad, and mean, why did WE, the UNITED STATES, keep it in power for decades and support it in war, and terror against its own populace to retain control and “stability”. It IS interesting that that “nasty” but secular government WAS more stable, and attached to our corporate model than the current efforts at sectarian rule.
Maybe if the right cheek wasn’t alway sitting on, and protecting their wallet, they’d notice their brain actually was slightly to their left.
It may be shocking to you guys, but you didn’t win WW2 on your own. There was the British, the French resistance, the Soviet Union lost 20 millions of its citizens in that, they liberated Auswitsch and took Berlin.
You do diserve credit for the war on the Pacific, though.
It takes two to tango, but only one to declare war.
I don’t have any problems with pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan at this point in time…but I have always suspected that the reason we are there is as a cautionary warning against Iran. Even if we leave, we’ll inevitably be back. Now might be a good time for a “breather”, eh?
If Iraq was a cautionary action against Iran, I suspect it may not have worked very well. And one of the results has been increased Iranian influence in Iraq. Not a success.
Iran has not wavered in its declarations or actions, no. Iran has been on the path that it’s on regardless of our presence for some time, certainly pre-dating 9/11.
No, the French were just still convinced they couldn’t control more than two Germans at one time- they screwed up the end of WW I, and again WW II, AND Viet Nam (twice!) The next time somebody, anybody, invades France, we should be on THEIR SIDE. That includes ignoring the idiots whining about the influx of Muslims in France. Brigitte Bardot would still be hot in a burka, right??
SuperGriz over 13 years ago
You wanna write the checks from on?
myming over 13 years ago
war really never solves problems.
4uk4ata over 13 years ago
Well, except the ones that died. Or the ones that came under USSR rule.
Wars may solve problems, but they definitely create them. It is dangerous to forget either.
Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago
“Dedicated to the proposition that all progressive cowards–including Commanders-in-Chief from Hahvahd–always cut and run.”
Stay as long as you want: but you’d better start raising taxes to pay for it. You can’t fight wars against everyone in the world and lower taxes. So how about cutting a check.CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 13 years ago
WW2 waf seventy years ago. America’s good days are behind.
Riley_SHeehan over 13 years ago
People will always kill people for land and stupidity so we just need to deal with it.
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
The right cheek doesn’t acknowledge that this was the “deal” set by Bush with Iraq for an exit date, that nobody thought could be met. That “combat troops” are pulling out while 50,000 “armed individuals with aggressive tendencies for response to active assaults on their persons, places or things” remain as either “advisors”, “teachers” ,or “targets”, does not mean anything was accomplished other than one more destroyed country with an even less stable government than before we entered.
If the previous government WAS indeed nasty and bad, and mean, why did WE, the UNITED STATES, keep it in power for decades and support it in war, and terror against its own populace to retain control and “stability”. It IS interesting that that “nasty” but secular government WAS more stable, and attached to our corporate model than the current efforts at sectarian rule.
Maybe if the right cheek wasn’t alway sitting on, and protecting their wallet, they’d notice their brain actually was slightly to their left.
FTN1985 over 13 years ago
She forgot to draw a boot up the Iraq guy’s ASS! It is TIME for AMERICA to focus on AMERICA.
WE the taxpayers shelled out $3 TRILLION -and thousands of AMERICAN lives.
Support the Troops bring them home… send the Republican loudmouths and the Tea Party nuts to Iraq if they are so quick to have American’s die for Oil.
Which, by-the-way; $41 BILLION of Iraqi Oil Money from the Bush/Cheney Administration is still missing in Iraq?
So drink a cup of coffee and keep America strong by keeping America focused on America’s needs.
Peace
pirate227 over 13 years ago
CF, you seem to have a serious problem with your benefactor to the south.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 13 years ago
^I have a problem with its ego.
It may be shocking to you guys, but you didn’t win WW2 on your own. There was the British, the French resistance, the Soviet Union lost 20 millions of its citizens in that, they liberated Auswitsch and took Berlin.
You do diserve credit for the war on the Pacific, though.
HabaneroBuck over 13 years ago
It takes two to tango, but only one to declare war.
I don’t have any problems with pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan at this point in time…but I have always suspected that the reason we are there is as a cautionary warning against Iran. Even if we leave, we’ll inevitably be back. Now might be a good time for a “breather”, eh?
lonecat over 13 years ago
If Iraq was a cautionary action against Iran, I suspect it may not have worked very well. And one of the results has been increased Iranian influence in Iraq. Not a success.
HabaneroBuck over 13 years ago
Iran has not wavered in its declarations or actions, no. Iran has been on the path that it’s on regardless of our presence for some time, certainly pre-dating 9/11.
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
No, the French were just still convinced they couldn’t control more than two Germans at one time- they screwed up the end of WW I, and again WW II, AND Viet Nam (twice!) The next time somebody, anybody, invades France, we should be on THEIR SIDE. That includes ignoring the idiots whining about the influx of Muslims in France. Brigitte Bardot would still be hot in a burka, right??
CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 13 years ago
Dr Canuck; I thought about it, but I thought it might be too much to understand for some righties.
Pavlov; I’m not talking about Stalin, I’m talking about soviet civilians who had to endure both hitler nad Stalin. Ever thought they existed?
Justice22 over 13 years ago
“WAR IS H*LL” SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE IT? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Defense is a different matter.