CF,
I am not religious but I would not make such a statement. There are many religious people who are not Republicans. I doubt very much if you could find that majority.
Maybe not all religions are hate, but there’s a huge part of hate in Abrahamic religions. Oddly enough, monotheism was supposed to be a step up from Polytheism.
The Pentateuch reposes on the superiority of decendants of one man, Abraham, among all others. Taken litarally, it is race supremacism, except with a different supreme race. it represses sex while being morbidly obsessed with it. It is also obsessed with the posession of a land. Any really wise person will tell you that land doesn’t belong to a person. Even the land you built your house on was there waaaaay beore your birth and will be there waaaaay after your death. Sure, you can give it to your descendants, but what tells you that they want it or that it’s the best place for them? Let it go. You’re made of it, not the other way around.
I believe there is a God, but the Ancient Testament was good for bronze age people, primitiwe enough to think that a parent could kill its (post-foetal stage) child, who thought the Earth was flat, that some races were bound to be slaves and others were bound to be masters and that there was no world nor people beyond the Middle East.
Do serious people still worship Greek or Egyptian gods from the same time? No. Do they still model their political lives on the Iliad? No.
Although some things in those books were good (even a broken clock shows the correct time twice a day), most 21st century people have outgrown it and the rest should.
I believe in God, but I don’t see God in those books. I see a bunch of humans commiting atrocities in the name of an imaginary friend they created to demonize the more innocent passions of Man (eating pork, consensual sex) and legitimize the worst ones (genocide).
I don’t think you’re an anti-semite, CF. Indeed I do sympathize with you a good amount more than you might think. When someone falsely quotes a book that has so few references to homosexuality (interestingly there’s no reference to lesbians in the Old Testament) to legitimize a crusade and oppression of said people while claiming to do it in the name of God… it’s hard not to see that ‘hate.’
OmqR-IV.0 about 14 years ago
Ah yes, the getting up real close & personal policies of bomber runs over Iraq, winning millions of hearts & minds.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 14 years ago
^^ ALL religions are fueled by hate and belong to the Middle Ages, if you ask most non-republicans.
Gladius about 14 years ago
CF, I am not religious but I would not make such a statement. There are many religious people who are not Republicans. I doubt very much if you could find that majority.
Jaedabee Premium Member about 14 years ago
I do not believe Buddhists are fueled by hate, CF. I am not Buddhist, but I find very few references to wars started or fueled by Buddhist ideology.
Dtroutma about 14 years ago
Seeking wisdom is not the same as following dogma- that is the separation between religion and state-of-mind.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 14 years ago
Maybe not all religions are hate, but there’s a huge part of hate in Abrahamic religions. Oddly enough, monotheism was supposed to be a step up from Polytheism.
The Pentateuch reposes on the superiority of decendants of one man, Abraham, among all others. Taken litarally, it is race supremacism, except with a different supreme race. it represses sex while being morbidly obsessed with it. It is also obsessed with the posession of a land. Any really wise person will tell you that land doesn’t belong to a person. Even the land you built your house on was there waaaaay beore your birth and will be there waaaaay after your death. Sure, you can give it to your descendants, but what tells you that they want it or that it’s the best place for them? Let it go. You’re made of it, not the other way around.
I believe there is a God, but the Ancient Testament was good for bronze age people, primitiwe enough to think that a parent could kill its (post-foetal stage) child, who thought the Earth was flat, that some races were bound to be slaves and others were bound to be masters and that there was no world nor people beyond the Middle East.
Do serious people still worship Greek or Egyptian gods from the same time? No. Do they still model their political lives on the Iliad? No.
Although some things in those books were good (even a broken clock shows the correct time twice a day), most 21st century people have outgrown it and the rest should.
I believe in God, but I don’t see God in those books. I see a bunch of humans commiting atrocities in the name of an imaginary friend they created to demonize the more innocent passions of Man (eating pork, consensual sex) and legitimize the worst ones (genocide).
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 14 years ago
And I can already hear people call me antisemite, if only that junk was only the base of judaism! It is the base of THREE faiths.
Jaedabee Premium Member about 14 years ago
I don’t think you’re an anti-semite, CF. Indeed I do sympathize with you a good amount more than you might think. When someone falsely quotes a book that has so few references to homosexuality (interestingly there’s no reference to lesbians in the Old Testament) to legitimize a crusade and oppression of said people while claiming to do it in the name of God… it’s hard not to see that ‘hate.’