Everyone involved should have thought of that before shrugging their shoulders to the truth.
Wonder how many news outlets will send a reporter to ask Mr. Bush and/or Mr. Cheney how they can reconcile this report with their constant claims of “We do not torture”? I predict……zero.
This information has been out for over a decade, and written up multiple times by the beginning of "W"s second term, which is why both he and Cheney should have been impeached, but Pelosi wouldn’t do it. BTW; that does NOT mean necessarily removed from office, but at least charged with the offenses well known at the time. Tenet was Rumsfeld’s lapdog, as were others in the “vulcans” group, like Cheney and Rice, who were all guilty, along with John Loo, Wolfowitze, Feith and others.
Within CIA, NSA and other agencies, “staffers” have long been in place, and promoted, for going along with "W"s violations, and cutting him space between himself and his actions. Some of Obama’s worst faillings were in not cracking down on agencies, but the “post 9/11” mentality, as in do anything we feel like, still prevails in our “Homeland Security” and related agencies, and that degrades our ethics as a nation. That’s not “anti-American”, it’s very PRO- American, but one that abides by the values we profess to stand by, not the ones we actually use, and need to change.
Agreed. I don’t expect it to happen, though. Those who authorized this will be willing to bring down the rest of the people who know where the bodies are buried, and the ripple effect may involve far more people than we might think.
Do you think Mr. Holder didn’t bring charges because he was incompetent, or because he knew what the repercussions would be?
At least your country is admitting to it. Will the British admit their complicity? WIll other European countries admit their complicity? Portugal is one of them (assisted with rendition flights).
So at least be proud of the fact your nation is facing up to its role; ours aren’t.
I Play One On TV over 9 years ago
Everyone involved says “This is going to be bad.”
Everyone involved should have thought of that before shrugging their shoulders to the truth.
Wonder how many news outlets will send a reporter to ask Mr. Bush and/or Mr. Cheney how they can reconcile this report with their constant claims of “We do not torture”? I predict……zero.
Dtroutma over 9 years ago
This information has been out for over a decade, and written up multiple times by the beginning of "W"s second term, which is why both he and Cheney should have been impeached, but Pelosi wouldn’t do it. BTW; that does NOT mean necessarily removed from office, but at least charged with the offenses well known at the time. Tenet was Rumsfeld’s lapdog, as were others in the “vulcans” group, like Cheney and Rice, who were all guilty, along with John Loo, Wolfowitze, Feith and others.
Within CIA, NSA and other agencies, “staffers” have long been in place, and promoted, for going along with "W"s violations, and cutting him space between himself and his actions. Some of Obama’s worst faillings were in not cracking down on agencies, but the “post 9/11” mentality, as in do anything we feel like, still prevails in our “Homeland Security” and related agencies, and that degrades our ethics as a nation. That’s not “anti-American”, it’s very PRO- American, but one that abides by the values we profess to stand by, not the ones we actually use, and need to change.
I Play One On TV over 9 years ago
Agreed. I don’t expect it to happen, though. Those who authorized this will be willing to bring down the rest of the people who know where the bodies are buried, and the ripple effect may involve far more people than we might think.
Do you think Mr. Holder didn’t bring charges because he was incompetent, or because he knew what the repercussions would be?
OmqR-IV.0 over 9 years ago
At least your country is admitting to it. Will the British admit their complicity? WIll other European countries admit their complicity? Portugal is one of them (assisted with rendition flights).
So at least be proud of the fact your nation is facing up to its role; ours aren’t.
braindead Premium Member over 9 years ago
Why did the Bush administration punish the prison guards at Abu Ghraib?
What the prison guards did was torture, but what the CIA did was just “enhanced interrogation”?
And it was all nice ‘n’ “legal”.
Cerabooge over 9 years ago
Thank you, SizeofaPea. I wasn’t up to responding. Nice work on the capitalization, too (or, rather, the lack of it).