scott: You got any sources for those claims? They’re pretty strong statements, and to me they seem off the wall, but I’m willing to look them over with an open mind, if you have them.
Go Lisa! Right on the mark. The entire industrialized world, with the exception of the United States, is proving. that the health care issue, in the U.S. cannot die and must not die..
It doesn’t matter if its Demo-rats or Republi-Cons, the American people get the shaft. Its all about those special interests and all those lobbyists who are only concerned with Their agendas, while we the people are forced to pay the bill.
Actually I would agree the Dems killed this bill. When we were at a super majority we squabbled among ourselves and greated a bunch of dumb amendments that made the whole thing a mess.
I used to find the comment amusing or interesting. Senor Bullwinkle is obviously unemployed and needs to find a hobby that doesn’t egg on his manic depression. There is no conspiracy or “them against us”. Most Americans get their news for Jon Stewart or search for websites that substantiate absurd claims. They vote for candidates not based on ideology, but what can s/he obtain for the constituency. There is no longer a “common good” but a devolution into something out of George Orwell.
Simple question. The United States is the only “major” country not having a sound health care plan to cover the populace, and unregulated “private” insurance and medicine is the only way to avoid bankruptcy. So how come none of the countries that provide health care have actually gone bankrupt? Even with the tight situation in Japan, it was the same economic practices that blew up our economics in late 2008, not health care.
I’m sorry you feel you have to insult people in order to get your point across. It really sounds very desperate.
I mean any President. I’m a Librarian in training (i. e. I’m studying, but haven’t obtained my degree yet). But I work in health care. I’m disappointed in the government run health care programs. And I’m also disappointed in a lot of the insurance programs.
Medicaid had one system that actually worked: Medicaid Waiver. But in July of last year, the entire program was cut in half, and most of my patients lost the services they desperately need. And in January, they cut the program again. We used to have nearly 100 Medicaid Waiver patients. We now have less than 20.
The Obama administration cut the one program that was actually doing any good.
If you can’t refute the comment, attack the commenter. That must be what substitutes for intellect in you wing of the loony bin.
Ad Hominem anybody? Judging by your past comments and admissions, I’d say that’s one more than you possess. Go ahead and show you bass in reply.
MANY VIABLE HEALTH PROGRAMS WORKING IN EUROPE TO KNOW IT CAN BE DONE. We have a deplorable system in place making some very rich. And its not a secret. What’s the problem?
I’m sorry to hear of your mother’s blindness. But just because she meets for coffee and doughnuts doesn’t mean she knows what goes on in the system.
This isn’t just coming from me. These are complaints I’ve heard from the 20 or so waiver support coordinators I work with. They’re all fed up with how the system has changed in the past year.
It isn’t just Medicaid either. My husband can’t get insurance because he has cerebral palsy, a “pre-existing condition” he was born with. The only way to get insured is through his employer, who won’t pay any of the premium. (That’s none of his fault, though. His company is run by a bunch of cheapskates.) So until he can get another job, he’s uninsurable.
I haven’t had insurance since I was in college. And I haven’t needed it. Since I’m a healthy person, I find I would have spent more on premiums than I would have on all the things I’ve bought out of pocket.
I understand that Mr. Obama is trying to get health care for everyone. But he’s going about it all the wrong way. (And, no, I didn’t agree with the way our previous President ran health care either.)
Medicare as a system runs rather smoothly, as long as you’re 65 or older. And straight medicaid (Not the waiver program they cut) is a terrible disaster. Their reimbursement rate is pitiful, not nearly enough to pay our staff. And you have to wait up to a week for a highly paid state backed MD to return your email requesting authorization, who’s only going to refute what the PCP wrote a prescription for. Meantime, your patient suffers because we can’t service him without this “state MD” giving us approval. Most of the doctors in this state don’t take Medicaid at all. And it’s no wonder why.
Pacejv over 14 years ago
Looks a lot like Barb Bush!
toasteroven over 14 years ago
scott: You got any sources for those claims? They’re pretty strong statements, and to me they seem off the wall, but I’m willing to look them over with an open mind, if you have them.
josephwgrant over 14 years ago
Go Lisa! Right on the mark. The entire industrialized world, with the exception of the United States, is proving. that the health care issue, in the U.S. cannot die and must not die..
Lisa, your art ROCKS!
donbeco over 14 years ago
Republicans have either blocked or ignored reform for years and now the dems have showed a astonishing lack of cajones.
avarner over 14 years ago
I saw the a Canadian Premier is coming to the USA for his heart surgery.
What’s up with that?
natedampier over 14 years ago
It doesn’t matter if its Demo-rats or Republi-Cons, the American people get the shaft. Its all about those special interests and all those lobbyists who are only concerned with Their agendas, while we the people are forced to pay the bill.
LibrarianInTraining over 14 years ago
Give me the health plan the President gets. I seriously doubt if his reform went through he’d have to wait in line like everyone else.
Whatroughbeast over 14 years ago
And 59 higher paid dum basses.
bradwilliams over 14 years ago
Actually I would agree the Dems killed this bill. When we were at a super majority we squabbled among ourselves and greated a bunch of dumb amendments that made the whole thing a mess.
We have seen the enemy and it is us!
oneoldhat over 14 years ago
senorbullwinkle said, about 5 hours ago
And who was on the Death Panel ?
41 Highly Paid Republicans i did not know dr zeke emmanuel was a gop er
Imajs Premium Member over 14 years ago
I used to find the comment amusing or interesting. Senor Bullwinkle is obviously unemployed and needs to find a hobby that doesn’t egg on his manic depression. There is no conspiracy or “them against us”. Most Americans get their news for Jon Stewart or search for websites that substantiate absurd claims. They vote for candidates not based on ideology, but what can s/he obtain for the constituency. There is no longer a “common good” but a devolution into something out of George Orwell.
Dtroutma over 14 years ago
Simple question. The United States is the only “major” country not having a sound health care plan to cover the populace, and unregulated “private” insurance and medicine is the only way to avoid bankruptcy. So how come none of the countries that provide health care have actually gone bankrupt? Even with the tight situation in Japan, it was the same economic practices that blew up our economics in late 2008, not health care.
d_legendary1 over 14 years ago
<=========I’m glad all my right wing buddies endorse the pay or die system we developed. How’s it working for ya?
“……”
A silent crowd today…
LibrarianInTraining over 14 years ago
Senor Bullwinkle,
I’m sorry you feel you have to insult people in order to get your point across. It really sounds very desperate.
I mean any President. I’m a Librarian in training (i. e. I’m studying, but haven’t obtained my degree yet). But I work in health care. I’m disappointed in the government run health care programs. And I’m also disappointed in a lot of the insurance programs.
Medicaid had one system that actually worked: Medicaid Waiver. But in July of last year, the entire program was cut in half, and most of my patients lost the services they desperately need. And in January, they cut the program again. We used to have nearly 100 Medicaid Waiver patients. We now have less than 20.
The Obama administration cut the one program that was actually doing any good.
Whatroughbeast over 14 years ago
If you can’t refute the comment, attack the commenter. That must be what substitutes for intellect in you wing of the loony bin. Ad Hominem anybody? Judging by your past comments and admissions, I’d say that’s one more than you possess. Go ahead and show you bass in reply.
kit_jefferson over 14 years ago
The Health Care Bill will not be truly dead until Obama, Pelosi and Reid are removed from office.
donbeco over 14 years ago
Pay or die? Well if you have the cash and the insurance you survive. If not, well it’s not like were all “True Americans” much less human beings.
littledutchboy over 14 years ago
MANY VIABLE HEALTH PROGRAMS WORKING IN EUROPE TO KNOW IT CAN BE DONE. We have a deplorable system in place making some very rich. And its not a secret. What’s the problem?
LibrarianInTraining over 14 years ago
Dear Bullwinkle,
I’m sorry to hear of your mother’s blindness. But just because she meets for coffee and doughnuts doesn’t mean she knows what goes on in the system.
This isn’t just coming from me. These are complaints I’ve heard from the 20 or so waiver support coordinators I work with. They’re all fed up with how the system has changed in the past year.
It isn’t just Medicaid either. My husband can’t get insurance because he has cerebral palsy, a “pre-existing condition” he was born with. The only way to get insured is through his employer, who won’t pay any of the premium. (That’s none of his fault, though. His company is run by a bunch of cheapskates.) So until he can get another job, he’s uninsurable.
I haven’t had insurance since I was in college. And I haven’t needed it. Since I’m a healthy person, I find I would have spent more on premiums than I would have on all the things I’ve bought out of pocket.
I understand that Mr. Obama is trying to get health care for everyone. But he’s going about it all the wrong way. (And, no, I didn’t agree with the way our previous President ran health care either.)
Medicare as a system runs rather smoothly, as long as you’re 65 or older. And straight medicaid (Not the waiver program they cut) is a terrible disaster. Their reimbursement rate is pitiful, not nearly enough to pay our staff. And you have to wait up to a week for a highly paid state backed MD to return your email requesting authorization, who’s only going to refute what the PCP wrote a prescription for. Meantime, your patient suffers because we can’t service him without this “state MD” giving us approval. Most of the doctors in this state don’t take Medicaid at all. And it’s no wonder why.