Nick Anderson for November 15, 2013

“…..Great point and Saddam supporters may jump in to explain why we shouldn’t have removed him from office…..”.Because he didn’t have WMD nor was responsible for 9/11.

Appears the U.S. has lost the capacity to accomplish big things – the moon shot, the big infrastructure project. Instead they mud wrestle trying to make political points..A health system that allows 44,000 to die needlessly and 100,000 to declare medical bankruptcy EVERY YEAR. And the best the Republicans can do is to make it fail for technical problems and delayed deadlines. Unbelievable!

I think it is coming more to torches and pitchforks at this point….

Wolf, there’s money to consider too, and as things stand now, Americans are going to have to spends billions more for healthcare, so it can all go thru a bureaucracy, in the name of healthcare for all.If we want to be careful in comparisons between lives and money, I would suggest that the 4 lives lost in Benghazi are worth even more than the billions, and yet the left despicably calls that a “phony scandal”.

Killing is relatively easy. Healing is more problematic. Especially when your priorities indicate you have unlimited funds for the former, and none for the latter.

The point of being rich is getting THE BEST health care. The new ads targeting promiscuous and beer guzzling young adults aren’t meant for YOU, you’ve got your Cadillac plan, they are meant for the young and the stupid (and hopefully healthy) so they can subsidize the old and sick..While the poor MAY have SOME healthcare, it will never compare to what you have..Democrats have got your back. You think they are going to treat you like some poor middle class schmuck?

“…..he certainly did, just because an inept UN did not find them or account for them is inexcusable…..”.So do you also characterize the military not finding WMDs as being inept and inexcusable?

Thx for the agreement… I think… but I certainly don’t think anyone doesn’t deserve health care. I just think they deserve to pay for it, at least to some extent. Here’s an idea – If somebody wants to take the risk of not buying health insurance, make them borrow the money to pay for any catastrophic care. This is over-simplifying things I know, but it’s a better start than this amateur Prez, who said yesterday he was surprised to find out how complicated it is to buy insurance. I mean, we did like Pelosi said, we put it into law so we could read it… did BO read it? Well I guess it wouldn’t have done any good though if he had, insurance being such a complicated matter and all.We have so screwed ourselves with this bunch.

The simple fact is the corporates controlling the “health care”industry started the fight against controls in 1912 under Teddy Roosevelt. Comparing the “failure” of "Obamacare rollout’ to the idiocy of invading IRaq and Afghanistan, claiming Obamacare is “damaging”, just broadcasts the stupidity of the current “reich wing” in government and the population of dittoheads and tea-drenched morons.

“….I am calling you on this yet again! SHOW ME HOW OBAMACARE MADE IT BETTER! Obamacare made things 10 times worse! I have proved this to you yet you keep copy and pasting this tripe! Show me your numbers!.Sorry to bore you with repetition, some are harder to get through to than others..Read the following:http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/.The main part of Obamacare is not yet in effect, so being 10 times worse is impossible to tell. But some provisions are now in effect: Elimination of pre-existing conditions; elimination of annual and lifetime limits; and the young staying on parents plan to age 26. I’d say that is roughly a 10 times improvement. If you disagree, don’t waste our time with declarative statements. Explain how that is not an improvement.

btw: those “negatively affected” by Obamacare in the populace are about 5%. Those negatively affected by "W"s wars, only about 1% who served this nation with honor, despite the fraud.

It is 95% of those who drummed FOR war, and AGAINST a practical health care bill, who have committed treason against the nation, and now maintain their absurd positions due to the RIGHT WING CONTROL OF THE MEDIA!

What’s the problem? My healthcare is just fine.

From Pat Dollard a self-proclaimed patriot:.“The Affordable Care Act does indeed specify, in Section 1201, that “a health insurance issuer offering group or individual health insurance coverage may not impose any preexisting condition exclusion with respect to such plan or coverage.” In other words, a health plan cannot deny enrollment, or the plan’s benefits, to someone based on that person’s preexisting condition.”.Looks as if you fell for the headline and the ideological spin.

^^ Again, the Heritage blog is spinning the message. The article is about the interim period 2010 to 2014 before ACA kicks in and reports that demand is lower, but costs higher than anticipated. What’s your point? PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS IS INCLUDED IN THE ACA.

“..So you still support Saddam….”.There may be a dozen dictators I don’t support. That doesn’t mean you invade them, unless of course you are a neocon and an idiot, and they have oil.

“…..The Republicans have been RIGHT on this issue since day 1! and it is becoming the cluster F, the S storm I and everyone else with half a brain said it would be!…..”.Ah hah….finally something we can agree on. It’s the Republicans with half a brain who are predicting the demise of ACA.

Harley, I’m curious. What health care program are you covered under, and how much do you personally pay toward its cost?

^^This must be something only you and a very select group know about. Could you provide some documentation. What exactly did they find?

“….A health saving account, with some other stuff, as if it brings anything to the table….”.Can I thus assume you don’t pay anything yourself, which makes you a “taker” and your dream of some day becoming a rich conservative is a worthless fantasy.