Back in the 30’s the saying went “When Okies go to California the collective IQ of both states goes up.”
Fifty years ago when I was still in school old Okies would return from California with their kids and the children would be a year or even two behind where we were in class. The California education system has always been overrated and it’s even worse now than then.
Is there any evidence that this is actually happening? California is still a much, much larger economy than Texas. As the Sacramento Bee put it, “Yes, come check out Texas. Check out a state that ranks dead last in the percent of its population with high school diplomas. Come check out a state that is last in mental health expenditures and workers’ compensation coverage. Come check out a state that ranks first in the number of executions, first in the number of uninsured, first in the amount of carbon dioxide emitted and first in the amount of toxic chemicals released into water.” Just because it’s a conservative paradise doesn’t mean that most people would want to move there.
When I typed in “Perry Brown feud” I got that Katy Perry is feuding with Rihanna over Chris Brown.Anyhow Rick Perry has been in the news as trying to lure business from California.
Article in the morning paper about another manufacturer moving out of state, though not to Texas.
Yes, Kalifornia has some great institutions of higher learning. The only problem is, they are populated with students from other states/countries that do not have a K-12 system that is next to DAL in the nation in terms of test scores.
Of course my friend’s brother, a cattle rancher, in east Texas, hasn’t been able to run many cows yet, after three years of selling off his cattle and running NONE on Texas forage, because of the drought caused by climate change. So, them cattle Rick’s got may be the last two he could find (or steal).
Teaching to the test comes up on local political TV shows. I guess that they can’t stop doing that because federal money would be at risk if test scores go down.I don’t have any kids but the few teachers I have known in the last 10 years complain about the FCAT.
re Education: Bill Gates has been ‘doing the circuit’ lately talking about education. He’s putting alot of his (ample) resources into educational improvement. So has Michelle Rhee.I’m not well versed in this, so I wonder what you ‘educationists’ think of what they’ve been saying . . . more teacher feedback, etc.
" totalitarian socialist utopia ". I’m sure this is logical. Whenever you demonize an entire portion of the population for not sharing you beliefs, you have walked into dangerous territory.
Infrastructure has been part of the spending platform as an issue that needs to be addressed. already the budget is being adjusted for this.
Talking about police, already there is talk about removing mandatory minimum sentencing. Something originally and still kept on by many republicans.
You then go on to demonize welfare recipients. Now as a breakdown of budget
General Government- 8%, good luck trying to have any government without what literally breaks down into tax collection
Library- 4%
Public parks, Recreation and Waterfront 6%- When you consider this brings in tourism revenue, at least theoretically it is possible that this is an effective method of spending
Fund Transfers, debt service 13% always a painful one but good luck defaulting on deficit.
Economic development. 4%
Health and human services, 8%. This is your main welfare spending. Generally can be used to reduce spending in other areas, I.E Crime, healthcare.
Police 14%
Fire department 7%- for whatever reason i antagonize the concept of heavy cuts to fire department. May be because it helps save real-estate, takes burden off of insurers. So forth
There are some excellent comments on education here. It has been a pleasure to read the debate. I’d like to address a pet peeve of mine this cartoon insinuates.States make concessions in order to bring or keep a company within its borders. Our tax system and federal gov’t makes it too easy for a business to move from one state to another once the terms of agreement keeping a business in a state expire. Mr. Perry of Texas takes great pride in the number of businesses he has stolen from other states. Pride should come from creating new businesses and industries rather than destroying communities and lives in other states. Doing harm to California or Indiana does no honor to Texas. And it weakens our UNITED States. Corporations play state against state in a game where, in the end, there are no real winners as the Federal Gov’t, in an effort to help unemployed of one state, must find revenue from states where companies have moved. This statement is not as elegant as I wish, but I hope open minds understand what I’m trying to say. This manipulation is, on a national scale, a form of “robbing peter to pay paul.” Communities are built on the expectation of a factory, corporation, or industry remaining in place for a lengthy time. When the business closes, it closes numerous small businesses.This is capitalism, and it is legal. It is not honorable. If we are to build for a future, we must build long term. Stealing businesses from one state to another is like hypertrading and it is more destructive than it is beneficial. Respectfully,C.
Californians were born on third base and think they hit a triple. They have an antagonistic arrogance that the rest of the country has lived with for decades. The constant preaching about how great everything “Californian” is grates on the sensibilities of the rest of us.
I will repeat my earlier assertion. The California public school system since the mid to late 1960’s has been poorly run and overrated. The product of this system electing Moonbeam, Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein over and over is all the proof I need.
As a Texan, I can attest that all the stories about poverty and low education is true. We still have a lot of Democrats here, leeching off the productive classes. We’d gladly give you all of our welfare leeches, and watch our poverty/education numbers decrease for the good.
blackash2004-tree Premium Member about 11 years ago
@Robert Landers
Back in the 30’s the saying went “When Okies go to California the collective IQ of both states goes up.”
Fifty years ago when I was still in school old Okies would return from California with their kids and the children would be a year or even two behind where we were in class. The California education system has always been overrated and it’s even worse now than then.
Chillbilly about 11 years ago
If you want to live in a Boss Hog place, you’ll have Boss Hog for a neighbor.
ARodney about 11 years ago
Is there any evidence that this is actually happening? California is still a much, much larger economy than Texas. As the Sacramento Bee put it, “Yes, come check out Texas. Check out a state that ranks dead last in the percent of its population with high school diplomas. Come check out a state that is last in mental health expenditures and workers’ compensation coverage. Come check out a state that ranks first in the number of executions, first in the number of uninsured, first in the amount of carbon dioxide emitted and first in the amount of toxic chemicals released into water.” Just because it’s a conservative paradise doesn’t mean that most people would want to move there.
rockngolfer about 11 years ago
When I typed in “Perry Brown feud” I got that Katy Perry is feuding with Rihanna over Chris Brown.Anyhow Rick Perry has been in the news as trying to lure business from California.
corzak about 11 years ago
lol, lol. Don’t like CA? Good! Leave!A few years of exile in ‘Redstate-istan’ . . . and you’ll be back.
onceisenough about 11 years ago
Article in the morning paper about another manufacturer moving out of state, though not to Texas.
Yes, Kalifornia has some great institutions of higher learning. The only problem is, they are populated with students from other states/countries that do not have a K-12 system that is next to DAL in the nation in terms of test scores.
Dtroutma about 11 years ago
Of course my friend’s brother, a cattle rancher, in east Texas, hasn’t been able to run many cows yet, after three years of selling off his cattle and running NONE on Texas forage, because of the drought caused by climate change. So, them cattle Rick’s got may be the last two he could find (or steal).
Dave Ferro about 11 years ago
I would live in Texas before I would ever live in California.
rockngolfer about 11 years ago
Teaching to the test comes up on local political TV shows. I guess that they can’t stop doing that because federal money would be at risk if test scores go down.I don’t have any kids but the few teachers I have known in the last 10 years complain about the FCAT.
corzak about 11 years ago
re Education: Bill Gates has been ‘doing the circuit’ lately talking about education. He’s putting alot of his (ample) resources into educational improvement. So has Michelle Rhee.I’m not well versed in this, so I wonder what you ‘educationists’ think of what they’ve been saying . . . more teacher feedback, etc.
Quipss about 11 years ago
" totalitarian socialist utopia ". I’m sure this is logical. Whenever you demonize an entire portion of the population for not sharing you beliefs, you have walked into dangerous territory.
Infrastructure has been part of the spending platform as an issue that needs to be addressed. already the budget is being adjusted for this.
Talking about police, already there is talk about removing mandatory minimum sentencing. Something originally and still kept on by many republicans.
You then go on to demonize welfare recipients. Now as a breakdown of budget
General Government- 8%, good luck trying to have any government without what literally breaks down into tax collection
Library- 4%
Public parks, Recreation and Waterfront 6%- When you consider this brings in tourism revenue, at least theoretically it is possible that this is an effective method of spending
Fund Transfers, debt service 13% always a painful one but good luck defaulting on deficit.
Economic development. 4%
Health and human services, 8%. This is your main welfare spending. Generally can be used to reduce spending in other areas, I.E Crime, healthcare.
Police 14%
Fire department 7%- for whatever reason i antagonize the concept of heavy cuts to fire department. May be because it helps save real-estate, takes burden off of insurers. So forth
Public works 24%- this is infrastructure.
chazandru about 11 years ago
There are some excellent comments on education here. It has been a pleasure to read the debate. I’d like to address a pet peeve of mine this cartoon insinuates.States make concessions in order to bring or keep a company within its borders. Our tax system and federal gov’t makes it too easy for a business to move from one state to another once the terms of agreement keeping a business in a state expire. Mr. Perry of Texas takes great pride in the number of businesses he has stolen from other states. Pride should come from creating new businesses and industries rather than destroying communities and lives in other states. Doing harm to California or Indiana does no honor to Texas. And it weakens our UNITED States. Corporations play state against state in a game where, in the end, there are no real winners as the Federal Gov’t, in an effort to help unemployed of one state, must find revenue from states where companies have moved. This statement is not as elegant as I wish, but I hope open minds understand what I’m trying to say. This manipulation is, on a national scale, a form of “robbing peter to pay paul.” Communities are built on the expectation of a factory, corporation, or industry remaining in place for a lengthy time. When the business closes, it closes numerous small businesses.This is capitalism, and it is legal. It is not honorable. If we are to build for a future, we must build long term. Stealing businesses from one state to another is like hypertrading and it is more destructive than it is beneficial. Respectfully,C.
blackash2004-tree Premium Member about 11 years ago
@Robert Landers
Californians were born on third base and think they hit a triple. They have an antagonistic arrogance that the rest of the country has lived with for decades. The constant preaching about how great everything “Californian” is grates on the sensibilities of the rest of us.
I will repeat my earlier assertion. The California public school system since the mid to late 1960’s has been poorly run and overrated. The product of this system electing Moonbeam, Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein over and over is all the proof I need.
thebaldtexican about 11 years ago
As a Texan, I can attest that all the stories about poverty and low education is true. We still have a lot of Democrats here, leeching off the productive classes. We’d gladly give you all of our welfare leeches, and watch our poverty/education numbers decrease for the good.