Strange. Some Conservatives said you could run a ham sandwich against Obama and win. Others said you could run a fire hydrant. Oh the disillusionment…..!
Obama didn’t catch that ball. It was given to him by a 3% of the popular vote and around 100 surplus electoral votes. Americans gave him that ball and now he has to use it to make things better for 100% of our citizens, not just the ones who elected him. The disillusionment Gypsy8 mentions remains with those of us with a vision of what it means to be an American and what this country should be. Those visions are very diverse and will require compromise in order to move on anything approaching a common vision. What we should not forget is that we all won yesterday. This would be my view had Romney won as well. Any time there is a peaceful transfer of power, our experiment in democracy succeeds another few years. I hope we can come together on the issues on which we agree, and can set aside until another time, those issues on which we cannot agree to disagree.Respectfully,C.
Dred, why the anger? C was in no way belittling the win, at least not that I could see. - You might not like the way it was worded, but the main point was that now there is a very difficult task to find agreement, one which I agree with.-This task is going to be all the more difficult with Fox “news”, in coordination with Republican leadership, constantly spreading distortions of the ‘you didn’t build that’ type — and on the equivalent scale. -The election was, in fact, hard won, and well deserved because of that. But the governing is going to be just as difficult.
People underestimate how many non-Republicans considered a Romney presidency (in lockstep with the usual GOP suspects) to be a terrifying prospect. That fear played well for Obama and was propogated by his supporters.
Thanks for the colorful reply, Dred. ;)My step father used to tell me I was so full of….horsepoop… my eyes were brown. So, maybe I am. That said,AMERICANS who (a) believed in Obama’s plan for the future (b) were terrified of Republican stated goals, worked their tails off making phone calls, knocking on doors, and staffing offices. He won because people who couldn’t afford a lunch at work donated $10 by phone in hopes he could make a difference in their lives. He also won because people who didn’t want to vote for him didn’t want to vote for Romney even more and just stayed home.In short, we agree and you have misinterpreted the context of my comment. Most of my posts yesterday were a continuation of my ongoing rant that Americans need to put parties aside and talk like neighbors to resolve problems, and like neighbors, to do so without reinforcing the divisions and resentments the last 12 years of political infighting have created.I am a peace troll.I may also be full of horsepoop. But as a child, every two weeks, I had to clean out the stall of the horse my grandfather kept for me, and then I pushed the wheelbarrow full of straw and horsepoop over to the garden compost heap. Grandma made the best jellies and jams in the county and her garden always grew tall with delicious foods. Horse poop, applied properly, can cause good things to grow. Just don’t let it hit the fan.Respectfully,C.
Gypsy8 over 11 years ago
Strange. Some Conservatives said you could run a ham sandwich against Obama and win. Others said you could run a fire hydrant. Oh the disillusionment…..!
chazandru over 11 years ago
Obama didn’t catch that ball. It was given to him by a 3% of the popular vote and around 100 surplus electoral votes. Americans gave him that ball and now he has to use it to make things better for 100% of our citizens, not just the ones who elected him. The disillusionment Gypsy8 mentions remains with those of us with a vision of what it means to be an American and what this country should be. Those visions are very diverse and will require compromise in order to move on anything approaching a common vision. What we should not forget is that we all won yesterday. This would be my view had Romney won as well. Any time there is a peaceful transfer of power, our experiment in democracy succeeds another few years. I hope we can come together on the issues on which we agree, and can set aside until another time, those issues on which we cannot agree to disagree.Respectfully,C.
I Play One On TV over 11 years ago
@Gypsy8…well said.
braindead Premium Member over 11 years ago
Dred, why the anger? C was in no way belittling the win, at least not that I could see. - You might not like the way it was worded, but the main point was that now there is a very difficult task to find agreement, one which I agree with.-This task is going to be all the more difficult with Fox “news”, in coordination with Republican leadership, constantly spreading distortions of the ‘you didn’t build that’ type — and on the equivalent scale. -The election was, in fact, hard won, and well deserved because of that. But the governing is going to be just as difficult.
Chillbilly over 11 years ago
People underestimate how many non-Republicans considered a Romney presidency (in lockstep with the usual GOP suspects) to be a terrifying prospect. That fear played well for Obama and was propogated by his supporters.
chazandru over 11 years ago
Thanks for the colorful reply, Dred. ;)My step father used to tell me I was so full of….horsepoop… my eyes were brown. So, maybe I am. That said,AMERICANS who (a) believed in Obama’s plan for the future (b) were terrified of Republican stated goals, worked their tails off making phone calls, knocking on doors, and staffing offices. He won because people who couldn’t afford a lunch at work donated $10 by phone in hopes he could make a difference in their lives. He also won because people who didn’t want to vote for him didn’t want to vote for Romney even more and just stayed home.In short, we agree and you have misinterpreted the context of my comment. Most of my posts yesterday were a continuation of my ongoing rant that Americans need to put parties aside and talk like neighbors to resolve problems, and like neighbors, to do so without reinforcing the divisions and resentments the last 12 years of political infighting have created.I am a peace troll.I may also be full of horsepoop. But as a child, every two weeks, I had to clean out the stall of the horse my grandfather kept for me, and then I pushed the wheelbarrow full of straw and horsepoop over to the garden compost heap. Grandma made the best jellies and jams in the county and her garden always grew tall with delicious foods. Horse poop, applied properly, can cause good things to grow. Just don’t let it hit the fan.Respectfully,C.