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  1. mskemple

    mskemple said, 7 months ago

    Dub’ya tried playing by the rules , UN sanctions and inspections gave Saddam months in which he removed his cache of WMD’s , making a fool of our president. Here we are once again trying to control what are most likely some of those same weapons – anybody else smell a repeat?

  2. lichtentunes

    lichtentunes said, 7 months ago

    @mskemple

    Re-write history much?

  3. PepeLePew2010

    PepeLePew2010 said, 7 months ago

    @mskemple

    That’s like saying Sadam was part of 9/11

  4. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    @mskemple

    If you call W’s lying playing by the rules.

  5. mskemple

    mskemple said, 7 months ago

    @lichtentunes

    Read history much , or just listen to MSM spin?

  6. mskemple

    mskemple said, 7 months ago

    @PepeLePew2010

    He was in that he was complicit to the training facilities in his country.

  7. mskemple

    mskemple said, 7 months ago

    @Rad-ish

    Not worthy of an intelligent response.

  8. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    Putin DID say some very VALID things in that op-ed, but believing there wasn’t any hypocrisy on his part, would be pretty stupid!

  9. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    @mskemple

    Then your response fits you.

  10. mskemple

    mskemple said, 7 months ago

    @Rad-ish

    Wow , kindergarten flashback!

  11. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    Wow, do a little research.
    .
    Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war
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    President Bush and his top aides publicly made 935 false statements about the security risk posed by Iraq in the two years following September 11, 2001, according to a study released Tuesday by two nonprofit journalism groups.
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    “In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003,” reads an overview of the examination, conducted by the Center for Public Integrity and its affiliated group, the Fund for Independence in Journalism.

    According to the study, Bush and seven top officials — including Vice President Dick Cheney, former Secretary of State Colin Powell and then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice — made 935 false statements about Iraq during those two years.

    The study was based on a searchable database compiled of primary sources, such as official government transcripts and speeches, and secondary sources — mainly quotes from major media organizations.

    The study says Bush made 232 false statements about Iraq and former leader Saddam Hussein’s possessing weapons of mass destruction, and 28 false statements about Iraq’s links to al Qaeda.

    Bush has consistently asserted that at the time he and other officials made the statements, the intelligence community of the U.S. and several other nations, including Britain, believed Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.
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    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/23/bush.iraq/index.html

  12. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    The study, released Tuesday, says Powell had the second-highest number of false statements, with 244 about weapons and 10 about Iraq and al Qaeda.

    Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Press Secretary Ari Fleischer each made 109 false statements, it says. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz made 85, Rice made 56, Cheney made 48 and Scott McLellan, also a press secretary, made 14, the study says.

    “It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al Qaeda,” the report reads, citing multiple government reports, including those by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the 9/11 Commission and the multinational Iraq Survey Group, which reported that Hussein had suspended Iraq’s nuclear program in 1991 and made little effort to revive it.

    The overview of the study also calls the media to task, saying most media outlets didn’t do enough to investigate the claims.

  13. mskemple

    mskemple said, 7 months ago

    @Rad-ish

    It’s nice how you cherry pick you’re chosen facts. First , the study was done in 2008 by the Center for Public Integrity and the Fund for Independence in Journalism. Both are contributors to DNC and the Obama campaign. Second , within the study are statements citing poor journalistic practices , the press in those years (2000 – 2003) did not question /verify reports from the world intelligence community. Third , when the Bush administration began it’s campaign in Iraq the intelligence community world wide as well as public opinion was on his side. when Bush realized the intelligence had been flawed he began making changes to our intelligence community to make certain this could not happen again. You fail to repeat these statements made by the study you are presenting. BTW , the reason our intelligence community was doing such poor work in those years is because they were defunded and severely crippled by changes made by , drum roll please – William J Clinton. Try facts from both sides of the aisle would you. Early explorers knew that the world was flat, the science of the day told them so, of course we now know that the world is triangular. All any of has to work with is the knowledge of the day. When searching history in retrospect there are always more than one side to each story!

  14. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    “Truth” can be time-centric. SO many claims of what Saddam was doing, are made by “righties” citing what WERE facts: in 1991!! By ‘93, the WMDs were either gone, or useless, what we didn’t blow up, wasn’t worth messing with. William Rivers Pitt and Scott Ritter summed up the lies being told about Saddam’s capabilities, in 2002, in a published book using accurate information. But the administration folks kept lying.


    Still today, defenders of our illegal invasion of Iraq will go back and cite what indeed may have been happening, A DECADE BEFORE WE INVADED!


    Assad, just like Israel, is more than capable of making his own chemical weapons (and biologicals), but he doesn’t have the capacity to produce all the nuclear weapons Israel possesses, in the worst kept “secret” in history, and neither does Iran.


    Which, as we try to use Syria as a reason to keep pressure on to attack Iran, we should note that Russia has also been more than willing, along with other countries, to monitor Iran’s nuclear program, and regulate any “weapons grade” materials they may not need to generate electricity, so they can sell US their OIL!

  15. mskemple

    mskemple said, 7 months ago

    @coraryan

    I know some lean left and some right , most can have an intelligent discussion. Thanks for the heads up. I am not without sin , but still I prefer civility.

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