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  1. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, almost 2 years ago

    While it is true that leaving a high debt for future generations is certainly troubling, leaving a world where you can not breath the air, drink the water, of even live in the limited amount of land left by rapidly rising oceans, is going to be a disaster for future generations of such magnitude that I am certain they will hate us much more for doing that than leaving a high debt!!!

  2. Stipple

    Stipple said, almost 2 years ago

    You are being silly, read what you just posted.
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    Now, think about it some.
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    Yes, everyone will be dead and hate no one.

  3. Mark

    Mark said, almost 2 years ago

    @Stipple

    I think I just pulled a rib muscle…

  4. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 said, almost 2 years ago

    How can we repair the damage and keep from doing more if we are in fiscal peril? Why do certain Plutocrats have no problem with our climate going Hot House? Why is it in their interest to let it do so for them and their need for power?

  5. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, almost 2 years ago

    @Night-Gaunt49

    It’s not just the Plutocrats. Most people won’t give up their SUVs, and most Americans want the government to keep gasoline at Saudi prices so they can afford a car that’s large enough to be safe and comfortable. If they can, they’ll try to get one that gets low double-digit gas mileage, but that’s secondary to safety and comfort.


    As IIRC Tom Paxton sang, get some of that beachfront property on the coast of Arizona.

  6. Lynne B

    Lynne B GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    The problem is that the groups and individuals paid to muddy the public understanding of the climate problem (like Marc Morano and Steven J. Milloy) have succeeded, succeeded wildly in fact – and it has been relatively easy for them, because unlike even “cancer from smoking”, climate is an extremely complex thing, there is a lot of variability in the system anyway, and the results of all that we do may not even be seen in our lifetimes (depending on how old you are). So it is very easy for them to claim that “everything that is happening is natural” or “humans can’t affect this system” – even though that is really not what the working science has concluded.


    Additionally, because a large problem tends to demand large action in response, they can play into the modern paranoia about “government” and conspiracies, to convince people that the science is all an excuse to add taxes and run people’s lives (somehow ignoring the fact that the scientists involved all have to live under the same governments and pay the same taxes, for a start).


    But with the public confused about what climate change is and means and how it works, then the powers on the top of the heap in the current status quo, who obviously are the ones who profit from the status quo, can keep people from agitating against the status quo. And THIS is even easier because the status quo is for the most part a comfortable consumer lifestyle that no-one WANTS to change.


    It is only at the point that people realize that the status quo carries its own costs and impacts on quality of life – like insane food costs and rising insurance costs and increasing economic disruption from storm damage, for example – that people might be able to relate the problem to something they genuinely need to take action on.


    Unfortunately, at that point it’s a little like a smoker quitting after the emphysema has developed.

  7. narrowminded

    narrowminded said, almost 2 years ago

    I’m re-reading Jules Verne’ “Mysterious Island”. The “theory” that day was that the earth, as all planets, will continually cool as the sun diminishes in strength and the internal heat at the core cools. Once the core reaches a certain temp. The energy of the sun won’t be enough to support life. The earth is doomed to this fate.
    Global warming, now climate change(really, what does that mean) is pure political crises mongering by the left that frightens people so as to gain power over them.
    The tyranny of fear.

  8. masterskrain

    masterskrain GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    @Night-Gaunt49

    I believe it was Dick Cheney who said something like “Why should I worry about what the environment will be like in 100 years? I’ll be dead then!”
    Sadly, that DOES seem to be a pretty prevalent attitude nowadays!

  9. richardelguru

    richardelguru GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    narrowminded (shallow too by the looks of it). Guess what, scientific understanding develops over time. Basing your argument on hundred-plus-year-old theories, especially if you are getting them from hundred-plus-year-old science FICTION is just plain daft.

  10. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, almost 2 years ago

    @narrowminded

    Do you realize how idiotic your “argument” makes you look? You are trying to claim the work of thousands of research scientists working in a host of fields with the most advanced sensory and analytical technology in the world, research going over decades, is somehow less relevant than a work of fiction based on theories with a hundred and fifty years less data? Why? So you can claim a liberal conspiracy?
    Man, use Occam’s Razor!

  11. magicwalnut

    magicwalnut GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    @Lynne B

    I used to have a neighbour…a military man, if I remember correctly, who said, “I don’t care. I won’t be here.” Which appears to be the prevailing sentiment.

  12. masterskrain

    masterskrain GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    @Ms. Ima

    Rather like the fact that NO Republican Congressman or Senator cares about the average American taxpayer, just as long as they have their free health care for life, and their Pensions, along with all the bribe money from the Lobbyists and Grover Norquist and the Koch Brothers?
    Yup, Politics works like that…

  13. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, almost 2 years ago

    @Stipple

    Oh, then I must be wrong, as that would be so much better!

    All of the human race does not have to die to have our civilization disappear and everybody that is left live in abject misery!!

  14. lonecat

    lonecat said, almost 2 years ago

    @narrowminded

    He also wrote a book in which the center of the earth is hollow.

  15. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, almost 2 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    However, you are nowhere near the level of stupidity of Ima. It is entirely possible to be able to stop our selfishness without cutting out market forces or capitalism. Recycling, conservation, improving both electricity generation and public transportation are just a few of the methodologies that ordinary capitalism is fully capable of using to stop the exponential rate of Global Climate Change.

    The only thing that would be bad is to do nothing, as some of the ultra conservatives here have advocated. Rapid Global Climate Change is a real problem, and will only get worse until humanity does something about it.
    People that deny science such as Ima are living in a fantasy land of their own choosing. And it IS their descendents that will pay the price!!!

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