Ted Rall by Ted Rall

Ted Rall

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  1. John Locke

    John Locke said, about 2 years ago

    Starting with my strong belief that torture is immoral, let’s once again open the discussion on the effectiveness of torture. Take the anthropolical evidence. Mankind has tortured for information since we lived in caves. Behavior that has utility is repeated. Behavior that has no utility is reduced. A preemptive comment: I refer to torture for information only and not for any other sick reason the imagination conjures.

  2. echoraven

    echoraven said, about 2 years ago

    Hopefully it wasn’t one of those fancy expensive LED flashlights…

  3. jrmerm

    jrmerm said, about 2 years ago

    It’s getting harder to feel sanctimonious about anything anymore. Now they are taking torture away from us.

  4. comicsssfan

    comicsssfan said, about 2 years ago

    My mother was into torturing my brother and me. But it was not for information. It was just for the joy of torture.

  5. Zuhlamon

    Zuhlamon GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    My ex used to give me ice-cold butter for my toast, just to watch me struggle.

  6. Jase99

    Jase99 GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    @echoraven

    “Hopefully it wasn’t one of those fancy expensive LED flashlights…”

    Flashlights aren’t any more expensive solely based on being LED. I have one on my key chain that cost a buck or two.

  7. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    Remember those are just the CIA torturers. Not the NGO torturers or the military ones.

  8. The Wolf In Your Midst

    The Wolf In Your Midst said, about 2 years ago

    @Night-Gaunt49

    One of the few things in America we’ll probably never outsource!

  9. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, about 2 years ago

    Another example of why progressives are disappointed with Obama. He continues to try to act like a Republican.

    I can’t wait until he characterizes the Geneva Conventions as “quaint”.

  10. Radish

    Radish GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    @The Wolf In Your Midst

    The CIA has outsourced interrogation and detention to countries outside the reach of U.S. law. “Extraordinary rendition is the abduction of terrorist suspects off the streets,” the lead author of the report, Amrit Singh, told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour. “There are secret flights to different countries, many of them known to employ torture. And they’re being subjected to secret detention and possibly torture and other kinds of abuse.”
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    http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/07/has-the-u-s-outsourced-torture/

  11. Night-Gaunt49

    Night-Gaunt49 GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    @The Wolf In Your Midst

    But we did outsource to Egypt and Syria.

  12. Rx71Wm29

    Rx71Wm29 GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    Ted’s “dark humor” is evident here! Love the quote: “I had to pay out of pocket for electric nipple clamps”. Great stuff!

  13. samhuff

    samhuff said, about 2 years ago

    Worthwhile running the Urdu through Google translate.

  14. samhuff

    samhuff said, about 2 years ago

    @John Locke

    But many people find torture fun, that alone would keep it going.

  15. hmofo813

    hmofo813 GoComics PRO Member said, about 2 years ago

    @John Locke

    I can’t imgine where you get the weird notion that “[b]ehavior that has utility is repeated. [b]ehavior that has no utility is reduced.” You must not know very many humans beings. Human history and the life experience of everyone I’ve ever known have been composed almost entirely of counterexamples.

    And torture has almost never been useful for getting to meaningful information, only for getting confessions when it didn’t matter to the torturers whether the person who confessed was guilty or not as long as someone confessed. One reason people keep doing it even though they know it is of no other practical utility is that it’s apparently a lot of fun for some people. Cavemen, apparently, as you yourself note.

    A friend of mine who worked in military counterintelligence in Europe after the war once told me that the US got many times more information without ever using torture than anyone else who did (e.g. the French). It was readily understood at the time that all you get by torturing people was whatever they thought you wanted to hear. Just as it was during the Inquisition.

    And the effectiveness of torture should be a completely moot point to any person who is aware that it is morally impermissible beyond any debate. I do not believe that you are such a person.

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