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  1. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    If you don’t think the movie industry has had an effect on the kids with their shoot em up movies and video games, check out the attached link. These rifles are obviously scaled down in size but they are very accurate in their design.

  2. omQ R

    omQ R said, over 3 years ago

    So, make this furriner understand: you have this zero tolerance policy for primary school kids making nonsensical decisions, and some of you have this idea that more guns should be in school to prevent another Newtown-like massacre?
    Ahem. Y(our) society appears to be suffering a multiple personality disorder.

    @ mickey1339 In a playpark once, we saw a youngster, about age 7, with a small rubber or plastic dagger, about 15cms/6 inches long, playing some “catch-’em” game with his mates. A few of them had the usual pistols and the like. My wife & I raised our eyebrows as at times they were very aggressive but left them well alone as their parents were watching and kept our kid well away. But what we were astounded by was when later, in the usual scuffle & shoving for a place at the slide, the kid repeatedly stabbed another kid, who had shoved his way in front of him, with his rubber/plastic dagger. I had to step in to prevent the 2nd kid getting injured. Nary a reproving word from the aggressor’s mother.
    Now, kids will use twigs & branches and pretend they’re rifles, guns, swords or knives; I get that. We’ve been doing that since year dot, emulating our past need to hunt etc.

    I get it that zero tolerance policies are designed to make kids understand that weapons are bad, even pretend ones. But when we, as a society, make toy weapons to look so realistic, allow our kids to enact games where hand to hand combat is emulated (sword play can be included), never-mind distant non-personal killing (guns), but at the same time in our schools then tell them it is bad to draw guns, or make our fingers or pop tarts look like guns…
    what exactly are we telling our kids?

    I know: That our primary school teachers should be armed, too. :-|

  3. lisapaloma13

    lisapaloma13 said, over 3 years ago

    ??? yet…

  4. bigskyranger

    bigskyranger GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    Assault weapons are illegal. Maybe it is just an evil looking semi-auto similar to those invented near the beginning of the 20th century.

  5. JoeCoolLives

    JoeCoolLives said, over 3 years ago

    Richard S. Russell said, about 7 hours ago

    When I was in high school (early 1960s) and deer-hunting season rolled around, guys would bring their rifles into school to stash them in their lockers, rather than leave them out in their cars and trucks. They could get in a couple of hours in the woods after class. Nobody thot twice about students walking the halls carrying guns. Perfectly normal.

    I was also in high school in the early Sixties, an’ you’re exactly correct about that…
    In those days, people’s fears were focused on the USSR, missiles, even nearby Cuba…but they weren’t giving a second thought to youngsters “going Columbine” in the halls of local schools.
    It just might be that even in the turbulent an’ sometimes scary Sixties, our society was more sane an’ rational fifty years ago than it is today – perhaps substantially so.
    Even with ‘lone nuts’ publicly killing our national leaders with guns over an’ over in the Sixties (JFK, MLK, RFK) as well as our nation being deep in a foreign war in southeast Asia that was fought with guns, people did not have the fear of each other then that exists today – especially with regard to personal firearms.
    Political Correctness – that insidious cultural cancer that is ravaging the ‘body’ of our society – has had a hand in all of this…judicially, we’ve turned the tables on ourselves, an’ enhanced the rights of the criminal element, while stripping the victims of much of their rights, except for the potential ‘financial consideration’ available through often preposterous litigation with the ‘help’ of “as seen on TV” lawyers – thus further bogging down an overloaded judicial system full of judges with highly questionable judgement, ethics, an’ qualifications.

  6. Larry

    Larry said, over 3 years ago

    Your point is valid; perfectly normal to carry a deer rifle, mostly a bolt-action .30-06 or maybe a lever-action .30-30. However, we wouldn’t have seen the semi-auto high capacity anywhere.

  7. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, over 3 years ago

    @omQ R

    So Scott’s reply to you – while accurate – is a tad harsh.

    So you just can’t comprehend? Well step back for a second, get rid of the “talking point” political opinions you read and look at on biased media outlets.

    Day to day life in this country is not reflected in any of the above.

    In 2010 there were 98, 817 public elementary and secondary schools in the US. about 45 million students in attendance. During that school year there were 11 deaths (7 shootings, 3 stabbings and 1 fist fight) in and around school and school related activities. 8 of the 11 dead were students none of which were killed in a class room during class. Is that 1 death for every 4.1 million students?

    This study has the following in the summary:

    Of the 1.8 million participants in HS football, the death rate was 0.27 per 100,000. does this mean that if the entire population participated in HS football (45 million) we could expect 11 deaths?

    There is this additional attack in Alabama.

    February 2010 – A professor opened fire 50 minutes into at a Biological Sciences Department faculty meeting at the University of Alabama, killing three colleagues and wounding three others

    No “students” involved.

    2010 is the most recent year for which I can find complete stats. But it will suffice.

    No, primary school teachers should not be “armed” routinely. However, if a teacher applies for and is granted a CWP or a license to own a gun, then she/he should not be restricted from having that gun with them – even on school grounds.

    Plus, if you read the referenced material, you will see that several of the incidents were police action against armed intruders or action taken by officers when attacked by students. How much damage could a woman with a meat cleaver do to a group of elementary students if left without being confronted? One fact in that incident is that "teachers’ confronted her while getting students out of harms way and kept her occupied until the school resource officer took her out.

    Students? Are we really going to kick children out of school for playing with objects used to represent a gun?

    Long winded again. Sorry….LOL

  8. dtriedel

    dtriedel GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    I think we should all have portable atomic weapons when they become available.

  9. omQ R

    omQ R said, over 3 years ago

    ‘I’ll take our way of life. If you don’t like it, fine; don’t come.

    I think you’ll find that many of your compatriots have issues with guns being taken into schools. Ignore me by all means, but they don’t much like your way of life. ;-)

  10. omQ R

    omQ R said, over 3 years ago


    admitted: ‘Long winded again. Sorry….LOL’

    Indeed. Bruce? What was your point?

    Bruce also said: "So you just can’t comprehend? “

    Most sane people would find it amazing that on one hand you’d want to keep weapons out of school to the point of applying ridiculous zero tolerance policies whereby even representations of same can get you kicked out of school even though you’re a primary school kid, and on the other, you have folks who seem to think having actual weapons in schools held by teachers would be effective

    Bruce continued:”Well step back for a second, get rid of the “talking point” political opinions you read and look at on biased media outlets."

    And which “biased media outlets” are these, Bruce?
    You’re the tea party dude; you only pour from the Tea Party’s teapot spout. You’ve often only provided links to blatant partisan sites.
    Hypocrite. LOL :-|

  11. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, over 3 years ago

    @omQ R

    well, I see you are still unable to accept certain truths.

    first of which is I am not a member of the TEA party, though I do agree with the notion that I am tax enough already and that the government should make and observe a balanced budget.

    I think my point was that there is no need to arm teachers but there is also no need to restrict those teachers that qualify by law to take their gun with them to school. That the incident of deaths in school by violent means (IE guns) is no greater than the incident of death on the sports field (in this case football) and statistically speaking the majority of schools and students are “safe”. That freaking out of a child’s actions during play is ludicrous.

    Now maybe you can be specific about which position is hypocritical.

    But I forgot that your mind is still weighed down by the traumatic events of your childhood living within the confines of South Africa and you have transferred your inherent fear’s of anothers motivations seeing a racist under every rock and behind all foliage onto all and sundry making an intelligent conversation all but impossible.

    See ya.

  12. hippogriff

    hippogriff said, over 3 years ago

    Those hunting rifles were not loaded – no sportsman would carry a loaded gun anywhere but in the field. “Show and tell” guns were exclusively antiques, many (like the Rimmington .41 derringer I showed) you could not even get ammunition for.

  13. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 3 years ago

    I just want to say there are things I am far more afraid of then a lunatic with a gun. Government over-reach being at the top of my list.

  14. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, over 3 years ago

    “We don’t kill people who don’t believe the same way as other people.”

    Would that that were true. Tell it to Matthew Sheppard, who was beaten and tied to a fence post to die because he was gay. Tell it to the guy who was tied behind a yay-hoo’s pick-em-up truck in Texas and dragged to death because he was black. Tell it to the family whose 81-year-old patriarch was beaten and kicked to death when he went outside to get some fresh air during his daughter’s wedding reception in Virginia, because a few thirteen-year-olds thought it would raise their esteem in the eyes of 13-year-old girls. Tell that to Gabby Giffords. Tell it to the family of the guy in Arizona whose wife ran over him because she didn’t like the way he voted last November. Tell it to the family of the woman in New York whose fiancee shot her to death because she made a bad bid in a bridge game.

    And what about Alexander Hamilton? Wasn’t he killed in a duel resulting from differing political opinions?

  15. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago


    “I think my point was that there is no need to arm teachers but there is also no need to restrict those teachers that qualify by law to take their gun with them to school.”

    I look at this as a nightmare in terms of monitoring & enforcement. Even people who are sympathetic to the idea should have qualms about teachers who do not routinely train in the use of their weapon, carrying while at school. Do teachers who wish to carry get to ask the school to pay the costs?

    I don’t buy into the idea that killers target “gun free zones”, but I suspect it would be cheaper & easier to just hire armed security.

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