Michael Ramirez by Michael Ramirez

Michael Ramirez

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  1. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 4 years ago

    Thank you Scott Walker for showing us how to stand up for ourselves.

    Frank, I would not get rid of them, we need more states that will do what Wisconsin did though. If Missouri and Illinois would do the same for private sector unions it would help the whole country, with all the fright transportations going through them.

  2. hanmari

    hanmari said, over 4 years ago

    If government employees want collective bargaining, they should have to make their bargain with the people who pay for their wages and benefits: the local taxpayers. Every time they want a raise, they should have to get 50.1% of the voting public to approve their raise. That should keep the politicians out of the equation. Politicians love to spend more money than they take in and promise things they can never deliver.

  3. Heavy B

    Heavy B said, over 4 years ago

    50th in job creation, 1st in job loss. Thats not a union arm crumbling, thats the middle class.

  4. disgustedtaxpayer

    disgustedtaxpayer said, over 4 years ago

    only in recent years have unions had the power over state and federal government as a very SPECIAL INTEREST…donations and votes and election support (non-cash but valuable) …legally.
    Illinois is in great need for some Walker clones….to trim union powers and trim salaries and featherbed pensions of state workers….the true ELITE of the US work force.

  5. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 4 years ago

    @Heavy B

    Heavy as usual job creation is misleading. If that was all their was to it why is Wisconsin at 6.8 unemployment when the nation is at 8.2.

    It is the same when Mitt was Governor and Massachusetts was 47 out of 50 in job creation. Unemployment was under 5%. When you get so good the job creation slows because there are less workers available to hire.

    Relying on one figure is never a good idea.

  6. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 4 years ago

    Even for Ramirez, this is stupendously ignorant and backassward.

  7. Heavy B

    Heavy B said, over 4 years ago


    Copy, Paste, Fail. Its not one figgure, its two. Wisconsin is last in job creation, and first in job loss. A rare combination that shows what a failure walker is as governor

  8. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 4 years ago

    @Heavy B

    Then why oh learned master does he have such a low unemployment rate.

  9. Heavy B

    Heavy B said, over 4 years ago


    6.8 isn’t that low when you got north dkota at 3% and my home state of Massachusetts at 6.3% (Massachusetts is a rather liberal, union friendly state). Its below the average because of highly populated states like California have around 12% unemployment and screw with the average.

    But let me ask you a question. If walker is doing such a good job, why is job loss so high, and job creation so low?

  10. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 4 years ago

    @Heavy B

    And the National is 8.2 so it is still low and how can it have all those other bad figures. Oh it is ok if you don’t know.

  11. Heavy B

    Heavy B said, over 4 years ago


    Thats dosn’t quite answer my question. In fact it came no where CLOSE to the answer. Its ok if you don’t know, we all know the reason is because walker is a failure

  12. Wraithkin

    Wraithkin said, over 4 years ago

    News Flash: the BLS numbers are incorrect; Walker has since last year and so far this year created nearly 39k jobs in WI. He obtained this by polling tens of thousands of local businesses. Those local businesses also stated they now intend to add jobs this year. Also, there’s one item that is a black eye that’s being covered up by concealer: The plans to open and iron mine in Northern Wisconsin was shut down by … you guessed it: Liberals for environmental reasons.

    Here’s another interesting statistic for you: Property tax rates across the state went down for the first time in over a decade, and we have a budget SURPLUS now. Given our current economic condition, I’d say that’s no small feat.

    This recall election was about was power, pure and simple. The unions were losing their mandatory dues, thus eliminating their ability to (through coersion) elect their own boss so they could get sweetheart deals. It was a straight-up conflict of interests. Union bosses would go to the state, say “We want xyz for our union members.” Liberal state rep would say, “Sure, sounds good to me.” Liberal state rep would then get re-elected, with the endorsement of the unions. A shocker, I know! If said liberal state rep would say, “no, I don’t want to give you that,” said liberal state rep would soon be replaced by another liberal state rep that would say, “Sure, sounds good to me.”

    You want proof of this, look at Walker vs. our last governor. From 2001 to 2010, teachers salaries went from $40,594 (with another $14,828 in fringe benefits) to $49,093 (with another $25,750 in fringe benefits). If you annualize this out in 2001, they made just north of 54k per teacher in just wages. The Wisconsin income for the average per person was 29k, a 25k difference. In 2010, teachers made roughly 65k again, in just wages, when figured out over the entire year. The average income in 2010 for joe blow was 38k, or a 27k difference. And that’s not including the 25k in fringe benefits, which I’m certain is much more significant than what the private sector gets, even unionized private sector. And this isn’t even counting the guaranteed pension they have after 25 years of service to the cause. The rest of us wage slaves have to cough up money out of our pockets to invest in defined contribution plans, because private enterprise has realized that defined benefit plans are a bankrupt concept.

    So… if you look at the actual numbers (provided by the census bureau and other government-provided sites), teachers have been getting a steady leg-up on the private sector thanks to their union influence on the government. People gripe and complain about how private enterprise (like the Koch brothers) are so corrupt and people insist they are buying elections, but the proof is actually showing that unions are the ones — not private enterprise — have bought elections. This was another attempt at buying an election, and they failed. Wisconsin taxpayers (and yes, I’m one of them) are sick and tired of being treated like a cash cow to prop up the unions and allow public-sector workers experience benefits and pay that far outstrip those who are paying for those benefits.

  13. jack75287

    jack75287 said, over 4 years ago


    Thank you!

  14. Heavy B

    Heavy B said, over 4 years ago


    First, let me get this straight, so BLS is wrong (not really sure what you base that on). If the BLS numbers were wrong, why was scott walker using those numbers to brag about how great his job creation was? Either I’m right, or walker is a liar
    And its so nice you brought up the iron mine. You ever consider enviormental reasons are a good enough reason to stop? My favorite example is natural gas fracking. Companies are not ones to be carefull unless some one explicitly tells them “Don’t do this, don’t do that.”

    And you may have to wait a little while longer before you claim property taxes went down.

    And surplus? But just last year walker said his state was broke. Dosn’t surplus mean they have money, and are thus not broke?(except for the 60 grand he spent on iPads http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/131336349.html#!page=17&pageSize=10&sort=newestfirst) Again, either I’m right, or walker is a liar.

    And what you just described, can fit in well with republicans. The wealthiest men in the country get massive tax cuts (and if they run a buissness, deregulation) and make more money. Money, we are asured, would be used to create jobs, which they don’t. The money itself is donated to republicans (like walker) who get elected, and the cycle starts again. And those are great numbers, the union pay, but insted of fueling your class warfare, or your politics of envy, ask yourself, “How do we get the private sector up to the public sector, rather then the other way around”.

    And unions don’t buy elections, this may come as a shock to you, but buissness kicks in more money then unions. Barrett had 4 million compared to walkers 33 million. Dosn’t seem like unions are buying anything.

  15. Heavy B

    Heavy B said, over 4 years ago

    “And Obama is a bigger failure as President”

    And you keep telling yourself that. Maybe someone will believe you.

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