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  1. jack75287

    jack75287 said, almost 6 years ago

    In there pocket. Ouch! The thing I like best is the giant suit. Have you ever seen the way a Union a really high up Union leader lives and all he dose is call trouble.

  2. syke34

    syke34 said, almost 6 years ago

    If you only knew how close.

  3. worldisacomic

    worldisacomic said, almost 6 years ago

    The Democrats in California are in the same pocket!

  4. DjGuardian

    DjGuardian said, almost 6 years ago

    ^^ I feel very sorry you Doc… you clearly have a warped view of the facts and it causes your conclusions to be off kilter. I hear all the rhetoric from both sides of the isle. I prefer to actually look into the matter myself and make an informed decision on the matter.

    While I see little morality and ethics from much of large corporations, being basically amoral, I find immorality and poor ethics from Unions. Not necessarily union members who tend to be good people with good intentions. But instead from union leaders and the overall organizations.

    All major unions side with Democrats. Businesses, on the other hand, are split. Many support Dems and many support Reps and most support both… simply hoping to gain favor with whoever is in charge.

    But most businesses are not ‘big-businesses.’ They are generally small businesses. Yet these small businesses are pilfered by taxes and fees that go to fund many unions and their exorbitant pay and benefits (considering that over half of union workers are gov’t workers).

    There was a time when unions were necessary. I’m not certain they are any longer. Regardless, they were never supposed to be involved in the public realm. Yet, there they are, ever growing and ever irresponsible (Wisconsin being the perfect example).

    There was also a time where being a “public servant,” aka public employee, actually meant that you were serving the public, not the other way around. Nowadays public employees make well and above all their private counterparts and at less efficiency and quality. But this was made possible mainly because of unions and the Democratic party. Another example of good intentions with bad results.

    If unions wish to exist they should not be political activist organizations. They should also only exist in the private sector.

    While I can name a plethora of businesses that represent/support both the left and right in our society, I cannot name a single union that represents the Right. If you can, please let me know.

    And just know, the public sector can never sustain itself without a strong and prosperous private sector… unless, of course, you are a fan of socialism and/or communism.

  5. jack75287

    jack75287 said, almost 6 years ago


    Who conned who? Every-time the Unions when a big contract the jobs go overseas. So who is the bad guy?

  6. Jade

    Jade GoComics PRO Member said, almost 6 years ago

    Unions are no worse than CEOs. Just like a CEO can bleed a company dry for personal gain, so can a union. So why are CEOs protected and Unions destroyed at every front? A CEO can make their own hours, a Union gives workers the ability to prevent themselves from being pushed to 3rd world limits, effectively doing the same thing as a CEO, making their own hours.

  7. W(ar).Crime

    W(ar).Crime said, almost 6 years ago

    Why do the right wingers want people to work for $30,000 a year regardless of profession?

  8. Jade

    Jade GoComics PRO Member said, almost 6 years ago

    “Why do the right wingers want people to work for $30,000 a year regardless of profession?”

    • Because it increases corporate profits… well, that is assuming that that increased revenue doesn’t end up as CEO expenses, that is.
    • Besides, everyone, barring CEOs, should be able to live healthfully on $30,000/year. Right? *

  9. DjGuardian

    DjGuardian said, almost 6 years ago

    Jack… I don’t know I that I can confirm your statement. There may be some limited truth in that “the workers of the world unite” belief dawned by the leftist unions is a reality in action. But to think that it’s any more than any of these businesses that have also lended themselves to shipping jobs out of country may not be fair… if not completely unfounded.

    Look, I’ve now been at two major companies that have shipped much of their work overseas. One was AOL tech support, the other was my current health care employer… or at least the new owner of the company which is well known for acquiring and dumping or selling companies for a profit. Only because of that partnership did the India link occur.

    Equally, it’s hard to imagine that no one has called some company up and not gotten India at least once. It should also be well known that many of the company uniforms (say Walmart, Applebees, etc.) are made in Asian nations on the cheap.

    Look, it’s a reality we have to accept. Both sides are guilty, but for very different reasons.

  10. DjGuardian

    DjGuardian said, almost 6 years ago

    As far as everyone working for $30k. Uh, I think you got it wrong chief. First off, that would be a step up for me, lol.

    But that to the side, the concept of everyone making the same, low paying wage is a leftist communistic ideology. That stands completely antithetical to the Right. Please, get your ideological understandings straight. It’s fine to hold an opposing worldview, but skewing facts are not acceptable for any reason.

    So as a “right-winger” I have never known a single fellow “right-winger” suggest that any single uniform wage was the desire (some even stand against minimum wage as an example of that very ideology). We, by nature of our ideology, want competition. With competition comes problem solving. Some will get paid more and some will get paid less… even in the same job at the same company. But a balance of wage, quality of environment and profit has to be met to metaphorically come out on top.

    However, unions DO have a tendency to stipulate universal wages and wage increases (though not all). Just saying.

    With that said, here is a real life example. My current company pays a lower wage for certain jobs than some of the competitors. As such, the quality of those particular jobs is also lower as it attracts lesser quality workers who tend to care less about the job and the company. But you can only raise the wages so much before you put yourself out of business. So there is a balance that has to be met. The larger the company is, the harder it is to manage that balance as the tend to focus that much more on the “bottom line.”

    As such, they made a major mistake to outsource a larger percentage of their work to India. After a series of months they found that to have backfired. Because of the inability (for a nicer term) of those much lesser paid workers and because of the culture clash (which makes understanding this kind of work and the problem solving methods to employ) it ended up costing the company more in loss revenue than what they were saving to move the work overseas.

    As a result, they have rehired some former laid off employees as well as some new employees in the states and have sought to find a balance on the limits of what India’s workers and culture is capable of handling within a very foreign line of business.

    Another real life example: I have a friend that worked at a company with a very lavish internal benefits. They had great health care, good wages, an indoor pool and work out facility and more. They did well as a business and attracted many of the best employees as a result. However, their desire to create this wonderful environment backfired as they built a wonderful new lavish building only to run themselves bankrupt in the process.

    This is the reality that many see in regard to swollen payrolls and benefits/pensions of unions and gov’t employees. They money must come from some place and eventually that money runs out. Thus, maintain a reasonable balance.

  11. Jade

    Jade GoComics PRO Member said, almost 6 years ago

    “We, by nature of our ideology, want competition.”

    • Government trust busting. Government involvement in business to promote competition. Government involvement in business.
    • Explain to me, DJGuardian, why no effort has been made by this group of individuals whose ideology “favors competition” to rein in CEO bonus excess, derivatives, and the continuation of large untaxed gifts (Democrats had to fight for the 10million+ tax) which furthers the consolidation of wealth and thus squelches competition, and solely targets unions and the poor. Why, for example, going a little wide here, aren’t oil subsidies being removed for extremely profitable oil monopolies in favor of the minuscule amount of subsidies to Planned Parenthood, a non-profit organization?

    “But you can only raise the wages so much before you put yourself out of business. So there is a balance that has to be met.”

    • I understand that, but as I’ve said, I understand that there are cases where Unions cause problems for company vitality. I have ALSO said that CEOs do the same, but that gets side-stepped. I would think that a single person pulling in an industry-wide 411% more than their average worker top-to-bottom causes a problem to company vitality, too. And this isn’t taking into account that rarely is the CEO the only person that far above the average pay. Do you admit this, too, is a problem, or is it solely a problem of unions? A corporation doesn’t get very far without workers. One person can’t serve up the needs of hundreds of thousands of customers.

  12. Surveyingsam

    Surveyingsam GoComics PRO Member said, almost 6 years ago

    You hit the nail on the head. Keep up the good work.

  13. disgustedtaxpayer

    disgustedtaxpayer said, almost 6 years ago

    Would be nice to see the facts on salary plus perks being paid from member fees to Union Leaders!

    I have heard estimates between $400,000 a year to millions! Depending on which Union….

  14. Jade

    Jade GoComics PRO Member said, almost 6 years ago

    ^ So … being a Union leader is almost as lucrative as being an executive?

    And for an earlier post… the power of the free market! http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/feb/03/rachel-maddow/rachel-maddow-tanglles-wall-street-journals-steve-/

  15. petergrt

    petergrt said, almost 6 years ago

    While there can be an intellectually honest case be made to justify unions representing workers in private companies, I have yet to hear a remotely honest argument justifying such for ‘civil servants’, where the employers are the tax payers.

    While Kennedy plagiarized: “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country”, and then issued an executive order allowing federal civil servants to unionize … and those unions have ever since been taking the tax payers to the cleaners - the country has done way too much for those parasites! Enough already!!!

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